Post-Capitalism - PARECON or a World Without Money?

'Post-Capitalism: PARECON or a World Without Money?'
Public debate between Michael Albert (Parecon) and Adam Buick (SPGB)
October 23rd, 2010 at Conway Hall, London

Due to camcorder tape changeovers, a few seconds of the debate has been lost at approximately 58'25 and 1.58'20.

For more information on the issues raised please visit
http://www.zcommunications.org/topics/parecon
http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• Parecon
• Socialism
• Free Access
• Capitalism
• Democracy
• Money

[robertcircleone]

When are the SPGB videos going to be produced using quality microphones?

[Ihas3pair]

Albert uses a capitalist/slave concept called "work" for certain socially valuable actions. A mother doesn't want remuneration for her sacrifice and effort in taking care of her child. Why is it so hard to imagine we can do socially valuable actions because we just want to do it?

[greenytaddict]

If money goes, so should politics and the ruling class, all through create corruption and crimes

[Ihas3pair]

I think "from each according to his ability to each according to his need" is not problematic as long as resources are being used sustainably. It doesn't matter if one person takes too much of something because he doesn't know how much is normal.

As long as you know the renewal rate of the resource and the current available, you can calculate the rate of sustainable consumption.

[redresonant]

Thanks SPGB for putting this on, and producing the video to be 'published'.

[redresonant]

Adam Buick doesn't even participate in the debate until, arguable, the end. That is he never argues Albert on that ground, whereas Albert went head on at Buick's claims and readily dissected and then reconstructed them. Clearly this one goes to Albert. Parecon is elegant, Albert is one smart dude. Actually, right to the end Buick doesn't register the arguments against relative opportunity costs, and how does someone know they are or aren't taking too much.

[fps0chris]

only people who went to college can say shit this stupid haha....and im a university student *gulp*

[robertcircleone]

@freddiemercerful ,

I think you meant pretty bad. It certainly is. It puts the SPGB in a bad light if they cannot even produce decent videos. Also there is too much waffle. They need scripting and producing to a much higher standard, not just to cater to members to to enthuse non-members.

Cheers,

Bob

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PS. I rarely look at my gmail emails. I use robertcircle1@yahoo.co.uk all the time.

[freddiemercerful]

@robertcircleone good question, I am a member of the SPGB and agree the sound quality is pretty in most of these videos, I will raise it at the next meeting I attend.