Wittgenstein: Philosophical discussion in Cambridge - Part 1

A scene from Derek Jarman's film 'Wittgenstein' (1989) upon the thought behind a word or a sentence like "This is a very pleasant pineapple."

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[justbede]

We also will never understand certain sounds they make. W. said: "It is not so difficult to understand what I say, it is difficult to understand why I say it". Certainly not to say that without language, language is not a problem.

[justbede]

There are no problems at all with language. Philosophers "create" them. Without language, language is not a problem!? Lions and dogs DO have language. Only not symbolic. Why do dogs bark and lions roar? In fact, often we do understand them. "I'm gonna bit you!" Dogs are pretty good with words too. They understand sounds, "maybe" symbols too. They can learn what "sit" means, for instance. What W. means, in an akward way, is that a dog will never understand what "language" means.

[justbede]

Can you give an example of mysticism in the philosophical investigations?

[MrCrispian]

this is a bit fast.....if interested the book philsophical investigations is great.....he mixed philosophy with mysticisim

[konopelli]

W's point, I think: Pretty much all human problems, philosophical or otherwise, arise from misunderstanding language: either in the specific instance of mistranslation or mis-signification, or in the more general problemics of language, per se. Without language, there really are no "problems." Hence the dog/lion/pineapple.

This is really quite astonishingly good.

[tonipiamere]

I am philosopher!

[Komnenos1234]

this is awful.

[justbede]

The mission impossible of finding the true essence of love, even if succesful, would not help a bit to find it. It is the other way around. You know it when you find it. There is no other way. Has anybody who claims to have found the real meaning of life been able to express it in language? This non pretentious question refers to what is important for you, goals you have, etc...Not something misterious, hidden, transcendent, that philosophers, mystics, etc ,"invent" and then go crazy about.