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The Obama International Confession Tour he called it, great job Karl Rove

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  • You seem to be thinking of this as some esoteric concept, rather than as a real physical act. I suggest you imagine yourself being held down by unknown men in a prison, shackled, and with water being forced down your throat.

    Put yourself there.

    I don't see any intensity or duration where that isn't torture, with the exception of them using a squirt gun instead of a bucket or hose.

    "Different reasons"? Like. . . instead of for extracting information, for punishment or revenge?

  • So shall we go back and prosecute Bill Clinton for not killing Bin Laden in one of the 9 chances he had to do so. How about Woodrow Wilson for false imprisonment of 175,000 American's. How about FDR for doing the same to Japanize American citizens.

    As for Obama, try the first amendment, Article 1 section 10 and if I had a about 10,000 more lines of to explain his trashing of the Constitution it still would not be enough.

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  • Karl Rove along with Dickhead Cheney should be in fucking jail for all the crimes against the country they committed...rove should just shut the fuck up and hope the Feds don't lock his ass up....

  • Carl, "Chucky," Rove. Why are you stumbling your words? Your listless neigh harks a retched past. What is the matter, Chucky?

    Let me guess...

    Highchair crybaby, sitting on a lie.

    Somebody's asking made you cry.

    Changing laws, you will deny?

    Take your turn, and say goodbye.

    Sean Hannity, change the hair.

    Straight back, movie star.

    It is not about policy disagreement, the law takes precedent. Chucky, is acknowledging the Bush administration circumvented, and undermined our laws.

    No-Way!

  • I can't see waterboarding working unless it crosses a threshold of terror, a suspect isn't going to give info unless he's in real pain and mortal fear; that is torture.

    I think torture is morally wrong under any circumstance. You disagree.

    It is also unconstitutional. If we give the govt that power, and deny that it IS torture, who's next? Rove maybe? No thanks.

    I don't want any president to have that power. Ironically THAT is the real road to the dictatorship that Rove is afraid of.

  • This must be discussed that way because torture is a legal and philosophical concept with vague boundaries.

    Yes, those are some examples of different reasons. American interrogators were prohibited from using it for punishment or revenge. They were only allowed to use it to extract information of the highest value from the most resistant captives.

  • Your false dichotomy is undermining your argument. The procedure can be applied for different durations, different intensity, for different reasons, at different angles, with different effects on the subject.

  • Lies, Lies, ouch the torture of the lies, please I give up, I will talk!

  • "the details of why and how are important in determining whether it is torture. "

    Like I said, either it's torture or it's not, and you are admitting here that in some circumstances it IS torture, so I don't see how "circumstances" suddenly make it NOT torture; the water doesn't know the circumstances. You can dress it up in double-speak but in the end the act is the same whether you follow some invented protocol or not.

    If you want the US to torture, just admit it and stop playing games.

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