Sen. Lieberman (I-CT): "It Seems Impossible To Me" to Get

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July 20, 2009

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[alwan11]

Man democrats need a fuckin backbone. I mean come on some of the democrats keep saying we need to slow down or some bullshit when they are just pussy out.  No wonder they never can keep the majority ion congress. Get it together dems or ur doom in 2010!!

[3star2nr]

Who keeps voting for this fucking clown?

He doesnt give a fuck about anyone.

[RayAir1]

Joe LIEberman, D-Israel

[toribaltimore]

Yeah, we shall see. Notwithstanding, I firmly believe that we should "measure twice and cut once" on this one.

[RuflessRecords]

Well your side definitely has the votes on paper to get national health care done. I personally hope that it does not succeed, and that we just tweak what we have to make health insurers continually fight off lower cost competitors like auto insurers do, but we'll see.

[toribaltimore]

True. However, therein lies the chasm; Americans cannot choose from different insurers, i.e. Blue Cross vs. United etc. Rather, we are relegated to choose the type of coverage being offered by our employer's group plan from their regional insurance company, i.e. Single, Family, etc.

Still yet, that's not the main problem; it's that we have FT workers with employers offering no health insurance, at all. Moreover, insurers can choose what THEY wish to cover. It's the system, not the quality.

[RuflessRecords]

Well the numbers say most are personally satisfied, which means we have to be very careful in screwing with what we have. I think if there weren't 50 different standards for what insurers have to cover, and you could buy health insurance across state lines with 1 standard, competition would keep prices lower, as is the case with car insurance. There's always a Geico coming along to undercut competitors and then a Progressive coming along to undercut the price again. Make it more competitive.

[toribaltimore]

These numbers don't say enough. It's like walking into an ER and saying that you have a pulse of 180 BPM, and then being given a diagnosis of cancer.

What these numbers don't say is that insurers have only ONE customer: Shareholders. The moment that increases in shareholder value and dividends come into play, we have a problem with our health care system; in that, it behooves the insurer to collect premiums from subscribers and not cover preexisting conditions etc. Wrong answer for the US.

[RuflessRecords]

AMERICANS RATE NATIONAL AND PERSONAL HEALTH CARE DIFFERENTLY -- Public thinks US health care system has problems, but own coverage is fine Lydia Saad, Gallup, December 4, 2008. 49% at that time favored maintaining current system, 57% said the overall quality of health care in the country was good, but 72% said healthcare coverage was fair or poor. However 83% said their personal health care quality was good or excellent, suggesting a disconnect between individual realities and media hype.

[toribaltimore]

Give us all the name of the Gallup poll dated on December 4, 2008. There are a myriad of polls that state otherwise, and I'd be curious to see the one by which you're referring.

[RuflessRecords]

tori, 83% of Americans say they like that "sadistic game of 'Musical Chairs'...according to Gallup, although fears have effectively been stoked by leftists regarding health care overall, 83% of Americans say the quality of health care they personally receive is good or excellent--Gallup poll December 4, 2008

[RuflessRecords]

Slow em down Joe, slow em down. Slow down the liberals and buy time for the centrist Democrats and Republicans to kill this. Kill! Kill! Kill! Balance the budget. No more new programs till we can pay for what we have now.