Robert Jensen;Feminism and Masculinity, Minnesota Mens Action Network, October 2, 2009

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[antiquelens]

fantastic. jensen is a brilliant person

[babamari]

right on the money.....and deeply troubling.

[jak1428]

the world is so simple, isnt it?

men = pure evil

women = eternal victims

[gorapeng]

Gender equality starts from transgender equality.

[pynchme]

A great man. He really gets it.

[Octane64]

Getting sick and tired of these self-hating men bringing down masculinity. If people like him have his years in 20 years we will all be women.

[OldSchool710]

What a weak self loathing apologist. Hates his race. Hates his own gender and hates his own country. Robert Jensen: Please hang yourself.

[djw11111]

I disagree with his idea that good (human rather than toxic) masculinity includes sensitivity/affection and that bad masculinity includes assertiveness and emotional suppression. He doesn't believe that hierarchies should exist but I can tell him that the people who abandon those traits of bad masculinity will end up at the bottom of the hierarchy that they will then be forced to acknowledge whether they are complicit or not in its existence.

[dubified89]

other men, rather than trying to be geniune people and naturally attractive in that sense.

I mean at the end of the day people just need to loosen the fuck up. This guys is clearly not comfortable in his own skin. I feel more bad for him than anger in a sense, but I know what he's doing hurts society

[dubified89]

@HisPrincessofLight Putting my words in quotes doesn't make you win the debate. Black or white mentality is exactly what ideologues spew, in this case leftist ideologues which are the 'you people' I was referring to. My mind is closed to propaganda such as this. Ultimately I believe that males like Jensen are self-hating and either brainwashed or trying to score points with the leftist females, something I've seen before. Guys who's feeble attempt to connect with the opposite sex is putting down

[dubified89]

@bukfan Going by surveys that have been done it's likely that there are more women who fantasize about rape than there are males

[bukfan]

Andrea Dworkin was a bit of a nut job who believed that all pornography was rape pornography and that girls were being grabbed off the street, thrown in a dungeon, and forced to be in pornographic films, which is kind of a dime store novel point of view that has little basis in reality. Those are extreme cases, and not the norm, as she would suggest. And most normal guys are not looking at rape or "gonzo" pornography. There may be more of it being made, but most guys are not looking at it.