SLED: Defend the Unborn with Scott Klusendorf

Do you know how to defend your position on abortion? Do you get uncomfortable when the topic comes up? Can you back up your views with logic and reason?

Listen to this short excerpt of a talk given by Bio-ethics expert Scott Klusendorf as he explains his position to a passenger seated next to him on a plane flight.

S: Size
L: Level of Development
E: Environment
D: Degree of Dependency

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[Josiah1701]

@MrLabrant For right now, I'm just going to ask you the same question you didn't see or simply ignored. Jesus never sinned, yet the Bible says he was fully man. Can you please explain that?

[amanda2324]

@Josiah1701 I've been trying to limit my Youtube debating thanks to the new character limits on posts.

[Josiah1701]

@amanda2324 You're welcome. You're the only other person that seems to be debating on the same side as me so I enjoy offering any extra information for you when I can.

[Josiah1701]

@MrLabrant I'm going to create a video response because of the amount of typing and the lack of characters youtube allows me to use. I might have it up tonight, but I have a lot of homework so that's doubtful, and I can't do it tomorrow, so I'll try to have it up by Saturday. It'll simply be a video response to this video because it's simpler that way. You can check it out, and create your own video response if you want.

[Josiah1701]

@MrLabrant Now about you're Biblical argument. First of all, you're taking the verse out of context. All Paul is saying is that God doesn't discriminate between Jews and Gentiles. It's not laying a foundation for what humans are. Second, if you're arguing sin in God's eyes, when we accept Jesus and are covered by his blood God sees us as righteous.

[Josiah1701]

@MrLabrant Oh, also you asked according to whom. Keith L. Moore & T.V.N. Peraud. If the fetus wasn't alive, the human race would have been extinct.

[Josiah1701]

@MrLabrant To answer your last question, it's not a human. It carries human DNA but is a specialized cell meant for fertilization. A Fetus is specialized as a human. And if you define as getting your food from outside sources, then none of us are alive. You're arguing that without the woman the fetus would not live. Without food we wouldn't live The fetus uses that energy for itself. Its cells do carry out the process of transforming the energy.

[MrLabrant]

@Josiah1701 The last time you checked with whom? Anyone with a college degree in anything even remotely scientific? "Life" is a continuous, cyclic series of self-controlled, self-energized chemical reactions. A fetus is still entirely reliant on one specific person (the mother and no one else), and is not self-energized. That's what science has to say on the subject. Sperm have unique DNA and can survive outside the body, but no one argues that each one has a right to life. Why?

[MrLabrant]

@Josiah1701 Uh, Romans says "For all have sinned" and makes no mention of sin nature. So either it has sinned, or it's not alive. So either he's wrong (all have not sinned) or a fetus doesn't qualify (not included in the word "all"). In fact, I'll send you $100 if you can provide a single verse in the Bible (NIV or KJV either one) that says "sin nature" or "sinful nature".