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Billy Mays at the bottom right hand corner @ 1:23

lol

I think Steve Jobs quote from Picasso sums up the early days of PCs:

"Good artists copy, great artists steal"

Everyone was robbing ideas from everyone. Apple took the GUI from PARC, Microsoft took the GUI from Apple. The clone makers hacked the ROM BIOS so they could make IBM PCs, etc....

To be fair, GUI and mouse creation have nothing to do with Xerox PARC; it was invented before at ARC in Stanford University
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O.K. How about the overall 3D look of most widgets and some of the artwork (folders come to mind)? Or windows moving content istead of jus outline (can't remember well if it was 95 of 98, but it was one of those).

the folders still look very differeent and... hold on a second, it sounds abit like you are desperate! picking out little things like the fact that widgets do the same thing in the same way, all modern wall clocks do the same thing in the same way but they don't copy each other!

Hardly, remember that we're talking about interfaces. The "little" things I mentioned contribute to the overall look'n'feel. Before NeXT came out with this system they were'nt thought of.

But if you like more unique things how about DO (NEXTSTEP) and COM (Windows).

X has it's own look'n'feel, but it's wierd. If you know about xmessage or Emacs(under X), you know what i'm talking about.

Linux is too underground to appear in a documentary made for the general public, but that's what makes me use it(the fact that i'm not following the sheep herd, i prefer the GNU Hurd(s)).

No it doesn't. X Windows was first bundled with the Atena libs which gave apps a certain look and now mwm. But these are just GUI libs that came with the source code. Actually any app can have any look and feel their developers choose.

Linux was still underground like 8 years ago. now it's pretty much mainstream now (although I haven't seen it in any documentary either I'll give you that, but Linus Torvalds did appear on CNN talking about Linux and how fans don't throw their panties at him).

I was talking about the output from xmessage, or the look of the GTK-less version of Emacs, that's in my opinion how a raw X11 aplication looks.

There are 2 documentaries about Linux and FOSS, one of them is Revolution OS and the other The Linux Code.

I know about Linus's aparition on television, but mainstream and uderground tend to be the same thing in the information era because anyone can have access to any information.