John Searle on Ludwig Wittgenstein: Section 1

Bryan Magee talks to John Searle about the legacy of Ludwig Wittgenstein; ranging from his early work, the Tractatus, to his posthumously published, Philosophical Investigations.

Section 1:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qrmPq8pzG9Q

Section 2:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kl-iLxleHaw

Section 3:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cjZBNDW7DmQ

Section 4:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lGfHQzOzp9s

Section 5:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=p4q0ntDIQBw

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Ludwig
• Wittgenstein
• Bryan
• Magee
• John
• Searle
• Philosophy
• Language
• Logic
• Logical
• Positivism
• Tractatus
• Investigations

[jonolikesbuster]

@foobarsnow Oh how we philosophers (or pseudo-philosophers or philosophers-in-training) love to argue. It might be pointless, but it sure is good sport.

[enenemenene]

7:59 "wittgensthought that"

[smuggecko]

some great inforamtion here thanks

[HumanActivitySystem]

@jonolikesbuster What is a philosopher in training, except a contradiction? Maybe what "a philosopher in training" represents (novice) is precisely due to his having the very notion of a "trained" philosopher - which implies that he himself has a dogmatic, authoritarian, and thereby extremely limiting philosophy of what constitutes (and what does not) a philosopher.

[JayGatsbyOdysseus]

Each philosopher talks and writes in circular ways. This is why I don't find their words so meaningful. It is their behavior where real truth lies. Wittgenstein use to hit his pupils in Austria when they made mistakes. He even hit one kid so hard that the kid passed out and later died of hemophilia. So, error brings pain. We must learn and do well or we will suffer. Even if we do well, we will suffer, but, if we do well, we will suffer less, not get hit by the school master.

[ssoswaldo]

@mrswozzle Your comment seems to be an attack, but it lacks a sting. The productiveness of one man is not important when there are so many men to do all the work. If you would object to this claim, then I would answer that there is indeed a critical point where one's productivity would be needed to keep society intact, but as it stands society is so strong that one can literally kill oneself with no harm to society. Also, even if he is a terrible philosopher, he still remains a great logician.

[sulomo]

@KrisForges “Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation” yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation

[Julianbentley]

@mrswozzle Yup.

[mrswozzle]

@Julianbentley  If you think Wittgenstein is a serious philosopher with something of genuine value to say..and that I'M the idiot.....well that says it all really.

[judy11164]

@mrswozzle Actually I never got on to him either really. But please waste some of your wisdom on me - who should I be studying? Schopenhauer maybe? (You kind of seem like a pessimist.)