John Searle on Ludwig Wittgenstein: Section 1
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some great inforamtion here thanks
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@jonolikesbuster What is a philosopher in training, except a contradiction? Maybe what "a philosopher in training" represents (novice) is precisely due to his having the very notion of a "trained" philosopher - which implies that he himself has a dogmatic, authoritarian, and thereby extremely limiting philosophy of what constitutes (and what does not) a philosopher.
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Each philosopher talks and writes in circular ways. This is why I don't find their words so meaningful. It is their behavior where real truth lies. Wittgenstein use to hit his pupils in Austria when they made mistakes. He even hit one kid so hard that the kid passed out and later died of hemophilia. So, error brings pain. We must learn and do well or we will suffer. Even if we do well, we will suffer, but, if we do well, we will suffer less, not get hit by the school master.
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@mrswozzle Your comment seems to be an attack, but it lacks a sting. The productiveness of one man is not important when there are so many men to do all the work. If you would object to this claim, then I would answer that there is indeed a critical point where one's productivity would be needed to keep society intact, but as it stands society is so strong that one can literally kill oneself with no harm to society. Also, even if he is a terrible philosopher, he still remains a great logician.
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@KrisForges “Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation” yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation
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@mrswozzle Yup.
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@Julianbentley If you think Wittgenstein is a serious philosopher with something of genuine value to say..and that I'M the idiot.....well that says it all really.
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@mrswozzle Actually I never got on to him either really. But please waste some of your wisdom on me - who should I be studying? Schopenhauer maybe? (You kind of seem like a pessimist.)
@foobarsnow Oh how we philosophers (or pseudo-philosophers or philosophers-in-training) love to argue. It might be pointless, but it sure is good sport.
jonolikesbuster 1 year ago 23
7:59 "wittgensthought that"
enenemenene 7 months ago 3