Christopher Hitchens on Iran and Iranians

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[MaskedMarvyl]

@BiohazardBunney , I have to give you credit for one of the strangest usernames on YouTube. If Toxic Avenger had a pet, I'm sure it would be "biohazard bunny".

Simply because "preteen wives were common" doesn't make the abuse of them, and the amorality of it, any less. Mohommad was supposed to be far superior to "thousands of years ago".... wasn't he? You seem to damn him as prehistoric by your own comment.

This was a psychopath who invented a religion to further his own power; and it worked.

[benjamin5rr]

R.I.P Christopher Hitchens.

[psychwardmovies]

@ifemunited btw I didn't understand most of 3, so I didn't address it. I tried to address the strategic point, but I don't think we are on the same page. I was saying our alliance with Israel is strategic- not religious. I think Iran thinks we are on the Jewish side. We're not. We are driven by self interest. Iran should align with the US & be an alley if they want our support. But I think you want me to say what is strategic for Iran is the nuke, but I'm not sure if I understand what you meant.

[psychwardmovies]

@ifemunited 4)cont. Not the best road to success. Call it fair or not-it's reality. It's about power- playing the game. Look at Germany. They did their time in the corner, played well with others & regained respect in the world after a couple of generations. Iran doesn't want to do this? Fine. But it's like the unemployed disgruntled American who complains about companies screwing him over so he'd rather stand in the soup kitchen line. Israel in the game. Iran has principles & suffers for them.

[psychwardmovies]

@ifemunited 1) It is a valid context & you know it. I won't even argue this point, as you didn't offer any real defense against it 2) It is our technology. We have ONLY made them safer. It's justified because 72 MILLION people died in WW2 & Iranians aren't the only ones with long memories. Speaking of WW2 4) yes, strategic. The major players in that war remain the world's players. Iran opted out, was over thrown & continues to be non-cooperative to stronger & richer nations. continued...

[ifemunited]

@psychwardmovies 3)Strategic??? Know the balance of power ? the zionists hold over 300 nukes, so the Iranians MUST create some sort of a balance (although they announced, they wont invest into making their own nukes, rather utilize the zionists and the US nuke barracks in case against them) (!!!)

4) i wont let you buy a knife to have your steak because the mad guy in the street will attack you !!!!!! how justified is that. Instead lets back each other up and control the idiots

[ifemunited]

@psychwardmovies 1) The excuse of the bomb being developed and used during war and such a justification is absilutely void. Even wars have rules and regulations. This is why "WAR CRIMES" have been defined (for those who have an awakened conscience)

2) After the war, the US is still investing in the next generation of the nukes and the next next generation.... how is that justified (impossing massive budgets on the dead US economy)

[yashil17]

@MaskedMarvyl

hahha, there is this famous Persian comedian and he has his "philosophy" in life ( as a joke btw), and he goes like "ye never know what to believe, i mean id rather believe in religion, esp. islam, ye never if what they say becomes true!" its really funny when he says it in Persian, and the way he does, but yer point reminded me of that

[yashil17]

@MaskedMarvyl

well ye know why he can question god's decision? because he is satan himself, seriouslly like there's a part in the shitran, which explains what happens to women when they disobey their husbands, and i swear to me Airiyan god for ye, if ye read it, ye'd think yer in hell, and it was hell but like to the power of 10, its like mohammad himself has been there, well no fuckin wonder hes been there, hes satan. strangely its only for women, doesn't say what happens to muslim men, lols..

[MaskedMarvyl]

@librarian123, You're right that he advocated and supported the falsely-justified war in Iraw. You're right that he idiotically supported Bush in 2004. However, your comment that Iran has plans to build a nuclear bomb?  Your assertion that Iran "has sought friendly ties with all its neighbors?

Ahem.

You mean, like Israel?

How were you able to write that with a straight face? The idea that Iran ISN'T trying to build a nuclear bomb, when Israel has them, is ludicrous...

[MaskedMarvyl]

@yashil17, well, since he was the appointed One and Only Prophet of God (appointed by himself, coincidentally), he can be forgiven a 6 year-old or two, right? After all, what God decides and who he appoints can't be questioned, can it?

Which is why I'm an atheist, even if (especially if) this god actually exists....

[MaskedMarvyl]

@bdpride, Hitchens owned all versions of the Koran, and studied them for years. Oh, that's right; according to the Arabs, only the ARABIC language korans are the "true" ones. And you read Arabic in the original.... right, bdpride? If not, you've got a false Koran, and a false interpretation yourself, according to every imam in Saudi Arabia.

Sorry....