Stephen Fry dismantles the Roman Catholic Church, from the Intelligence Squared debate

im mirroring it, because i have a feeling that this debate will turn legendary. earlier i already mirrored Christopher Hitchens contribution to this debate, and people stay interested and keep commenting for months now, and also its a topic people need to be aware and stay aware about. tell me: should i keep using my channel to re-upload some of the stuff that i think is most important, do you like these mirrors?

this edited version has been done by: kasperhauseredux , good job!

Watch the FULL Unedited Debate at http://bit.ly/FryCathol

filmed 19 Oct 2009, this is a segment of the intelligence² debate. Title of the debate: "The Catholic Church is a force for good in the world". http://www.intelligencesquared.com .

my earlier re-upload of Christopher Hitchens discussing the same topic in the same debate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZnJr_2HbXc

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[SenorZacito]

@kurtilein3 Hello brother, I was wondering have you ever read about Cristero War in Mexico? Where an atheist president in the 1920s killed many Catholic priests. Presently Vietnam and Korea are mostly atheist yet they persecute religion, just as bad as Muslim countries persecute other religions. Catholic church gives more money to the poor than any organization in the world. Genetics and the Big Band Theory were both started by priests. Stop reading biased anti-Christian versions of history

[kurtilein3]

@SenorZacito

I dont care much, because atheism actually is a meaningless label. Ideologies can sometimes be just as destructive as religions. Its true, i am an atheist, but thats empty, actually and far more important, im a humanist. Thats a movement going back at least 2400 years. Humanism is older than christianity. In WW2, humanists tried hard to kill Hitler, and humanists ended up in concentration camps and were butchered. Check Hypathia of Alexandria or Giordano Bruno.

[kurtilein3]

@SenorZacito

... second comment

Stalin was an atheist, and he was a tyrant and killed millions. Hitler, by the way, was a roman catholic and stayed one until he died, the first major contract he signed was with the papacy of the roman catholic church. Im a humanist, and Stalin was not. With a 2400 year history, can you find major screw-ups in history perpetrated by humanists? Any genocides? Bad apples? By the way, Stephen Fry is a humanist. He even won humanist awards.

[kurtilein3]

@SenorZacito

About Korea, do you mean north or south Korea? North Korea is deeply theocratic, they did build their own religion. Their god is Kim Il-sung. He is now dead, but still officially the supreme leader. North koreans have to praise him every day. Kim Jong-il, now also dead, also needs to be worshiped by the north koreans. Now, with kim jong-un, the trinity is complete. For the north koreans, Kim Il-sung stays the supreme leader.

[PocketRocketPRP]

I have nothing but love and admiration for Stephen Fry. he is a hero and a gentlemen.

[Water4Jeremiah]

@TheEdduff Well there will be no one in heaven since god doesn't exist. Calling the bible 'God's pure word' hardly makes it pure or the words of a supernatural being except in your own imagination. It just makes your own personal prejudices more solidified. I am sure in your mind, even if a god told you that homosexuality was just fine, you'd still find a reason (or at the very least) find another scapegoat to make yourself feel more superior than. Take your pick, you have free will.

[hard124get]

It is no wonder that poor Mr.Fry is a manic depressive.

[rickstein123]

The point at the end he made to Ann Widdecombe was epic and absolutely spot on.

[TomFynn]

@BritEDL As someone who, both as a Jew and a gay man, is on the wrong end of the Catholic Church, he is *exactly* the right man to rip the masks from their smiling, unctuous faces.

[ikinmoore]

I could not put it better then Mr Fry. All religion is a curse of mankind. Each person has their own beliefs. Mine is to be kind to animals and love them as I would a child. This is not in the Bible or religious dogma. I am an atheist and I love gay people. May Mr Fry carry on with his views.

[desasterz]

Comparing sex to food. What an idiote. And gay people tend to have a (much like people who follow a school curriculum instead of persuing an education) that they tend to go towards rveling in themselves as well as embrassing their homosexuality. And I hate how secular people in this day look towards gay sexuality and relationships as the prime example of sensitive cuteness and spirituality, its not the best example, by far not!

[desasterz]

3:17 We ceetainly should stop hearing that about Bi-Polars, Dipressed, ADHD'd people. I hav ebeen told by a darwinist englishman, whom ahppens to be my Granddad, "you have a genetic personality problem."

[lovencare62]

there's no one else any greatest heroes in the world than those who serve faithfully and followers of Jesus Christ.

[BritEDL]

I'm not a religous guy, but who the fuck is Stephen Fry the Jew, to speak about "The Catholic Church" That's like inviting a Muslim to speak about the Jewish Beth Din courts! What a cock!