The Fall of Java Island, March 1942 Dutch East Indies
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@NGUIJT yes if indonesia were still dutch rules the local indonesian would have been still exploited by cruel cold heart white devil imperialist like you.
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@asobumanabu if indonesia were still rules by the dutch you would not have as many poor people.
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@theloah if the dutch would never have come to indonesia you would have been many diffreent countries right now, and also if the dutch werent there you would probably have living conditions like the africans have now, because the dutch built reailways, cities electicity supply hospitals schools. Natural rescourse doest make a country rich. Holland is a very rich country and has never really had any natural rescourses.
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@blueboy921 The companies, who exploit the natural resources in Papua are foreign companies from Canada, the US and other. Most of the profit is going abroad. A bunch of problems waiting to be solved. But the progress is getting better from year to year. Our minister of enviroment is a Papuan :) The South Moluccans wants to stay in Indonesia, Aceh too :) Indonesia grows together. Has to grow together in peace with fair solutions, not with deviousnesses like the Dutch did..
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do you think, what happens at West Irian is a good thing ?
im sure there is no significant Papua population in Jakarta ;)
the papua are exploited.
And Holland gave, at least the moluccans who fought for them, free citizenship, and a lot came to holland
But in holland, its not the majority, which is from moluccas, so they cant get a state.
But in Indonesia, the Moluccans Did NOT want to become indonesians, so its not a good thing to annex them, know what i mean ?
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@blueboy921 Chinese are living everywhere in Indonesia. Papuas are living and working in Java as well as Moluccans, Acehs, Dayak, Balinese, and people from all other islands and the other way around. They are ALL Indonesians. That's a damn good thing. Jakarta is a melting pot. Let the people grow together in peace. Indonesia is not your business anymore. Divide your own country. Give Zealand, S. Holland, N. Brabant and Utrecht to the Moluccans who fought for you and rename it to Maluku Blanda.
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Yeah the dutch shouldnt have come.
i mean, when you were the dutch, (indonesians in the position of the dutch) you would also have done it i think.
Just because it brings you profit.
Basically you do the same to West Iryan, where you exploit the Papua...
yeah the chinese, but followed by the javanese, and they are also living in java, the chinese, so its kinda true what i said..
"Indonesia" "Aceh" "Republika Maluku Selantan" "west-Iry" to Papua should be i think
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@blueboy921 The dutch should not have even come to the islands in the 17th century with their cannons, monopolizing (with horrible methods) the trade and unbalanced it. They should have let their cannons at home to terrorize and kill their own people.
Indonesia as one big country is politically stronger than several puppet states (which would possibly bring disturbance to the region, caused by the dutch, to opress and exploit the region). And Chinese are now the richest Indonesians..
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A modern state as a gift from the Dutch?
You mean like Suriname?
vsovereign3 2 years ago 16
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