Hell - Eternal Torment - Final Response Video

http://www.bibleknowledgeonline.com This is a final response video on the topic of hell. This discussion is primarily between Bingolly1 and Labarum312. I will have more videos in the future on this topic. Thanks and God bless!

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[TerminalMontage]

So what about 1 Peter 3:18-20? Jesus didn't talk to people in Hell like it said? And Hell is not eternal? Just because it doesn't seem fair? The Devil deceives people, & they harden their heart towards God, they REJECT Him.

You are ridiculous. You think after all these years you and a handful of other people suddenly came up with the Truth? And God is mysterious & you know so little? Yet you feel that you're right? God isn't so mysterious, if you've noticed, he works in patterns.

[mtzion211]

@TerminalMontage Ok...I will reply but I have found most of the time it is not worth it! 1 Peter 3 18-20 is speaking of the spirits that Jesus came to preach to and set free. Remember, He come to set the captives free. This is not preaching in hell! Is that what you believe....really? Compare to Isaiah 42:7 and 61:1. 61:1 is the passage that Jesus quoted in the temple. ...to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound. Sound similar to 1 Peter?

[mtzion211]

@TerminalMontage Sooooo. The passage doesn't say that Jesus went to hell. The passage states that He preached to the spirits in prison.....you are honestly misunderstanding the passage. Also I never stated that hell is not eternal....in fact I stated that it is eternal. The punishing is not eternal but the punishment is eternal. Death is eternal with no chance of redemption. The truth is the truth. Believe it or not. Many in the Bible have been mocked for the truth so be careful.

[potooth]

MTZ Enjoyed the video. I have a couple references you may or may not have come across touching on the unquenchable fire,eternal fire,forever,word usages. Jude7(notice 'eternal fire'), then going to 2Pet2:6. Jer17:27 9 Is the fire that shall not be quenched still burning today?, Ex21:6(Is the servant still serving his master today?),1Sam1:22,28 The unquenchable fire simply means the fire will burn until the material or body is completely consumed. For ever lasts until the mortal dies.

Thank you

[mtzion211]

Thank you for posting. We pretty much agree here. I do see the fire as metaphorical. We are to fear the one that can destroy body and soul in hell fire or gehenna. The body may seem to indicate a physical fire though I see it all as symbolic. Otherwise it sounds like we agree. God bless you!

[rkg62976]

Indeed, "hades" is the grave (1Cor.15:55). In the LXX, the word "sheol" (grave, hell, pit) is translated as "hades". The only Greek word that has anything at all to do with "a place of burning" is the word "gehenna". Even this word is symbolic of the "valley of Hinnom" south of Jerusalem. "Gehenna" is the lake of fire where the wicked will be destroyed, along with Satan and his angels.

[mtzion211]

Thank you for posting. I am glad that we agree on this subject. However I do have a different opinion on the lake of fire in Revelation 20. I see Revelation from a different perspective.  You can watch my other videos or read some articles on my site if you are interested. Thanks again and God bless you!

[sailing19100]

@TerminalMontage It's not that hell is not eternal, but that the greek words underneath "hell" and "eternal" meant other than what they are presented as today. Also, it is not a handful of people who recently came to see this, the bible itself is witness against the improper definitions, as recognized by more than a handful of the earliest church fathers.

[1Mazzaroth]

@mtzion211 Call it Hell, Hades, Underworld, Pluto and Goofy. There are other places and levels of “outer darkness” where the Devil and tormenting demons live. Within the Grave there is an “outer darkness”, where the souls of the wicked are sent for punishment. The names may be questionable, but, the final judgement is the Lake of Fire and whose names are not found in the Lambs book of Life. Jesus is the door and there is no other way can a person enter into heaven.

[1Mazzaroth]

@mtzion211 On this video you seemed to have pulled out and studied all the scriptures concerning an eternel hell. So I wont go into giving scriptures. However, we can never weigh so many other scriptures above one other. That one scripture is just as important. Remember II Timothy 3:16? We must realize that revelations of Gods word is like finding a needle in the haystack and the one scripture we ignore can be that needle. 

[1Mazzaroth]

@mtzion211 Hello my Brother...You and I have never argued an issue and never will. We have always come to reason on the same level of meaning or realize to continue our search. Its always important for people and us to keep II Timothy 3:16 in the back of our minds when sharing scriptures with each other. 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: This keeps us open minded.

[Thegreyraccoon]

The wickedness in peoples minds refuse to understand this. Remember it was Satan who said "I WILL BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH" so like wise he will be in hell attacking people like the churches teaches.it is written for God so loved the world he gave his only son they whoever believes should not perish but have eternal life. When why if the things of the church are right, do those people in "HELL" have ever lasting life Too? SEE WITH GREATER EYES PEOPLE.

[itsallamindgame]

RIGHT!! the worm dieth not= the maggots that feasted on the dead carcasses of animals and people that were thrown into the garbage dump, some of the carcasses landed on rocks and bushes etc and did not make it down to the garbage pit. so much platoism and dantes inferno have captured the minds on billions.Peace to you

[sailing19100]

your argument is biblical, reasonable and sober-minded. I would only say that any believer who has suffered the chastizement of God recognizes it as both merciful and agonizing, and it does consume carnality. The psalms are full of graphic descriptions of that.

[sailing19100]

@potooth i would take your idea one step further to propose that "flesh" is carnal, and it is carnality that is burned out of us. " The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes..."