When did Satan fall?
We know that the angels were created prior to the Earth. We find Satan had already fallen in Genesis 3. The mystery is, when did he fall? It appears that there are substantial Scriptural references to his rebellion, his agenda, and the subsequent catastrophic judgment that ensued.
This raises the whole issue of the origin of evil. And why hasnt God simply wiped him"and sin"out completely? It is also disturbing to recognize that Satan tempted Jesus by offering him the kingdom, power and the glory in the temptations recorded in Luke 5 How could Satan lay a legitimate claim to these?
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@conundrumcrux Hey, I totally screwed up on all of my responses, see if you can read through all of them that are here. They're out of order somehow, but each one that is a response to myself, is a response to you. check out my responses, and check out my new video that will help you get some idea of where I'm coming from. Thanks. Peace.
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crazyCHRISTcraver 7 months ago
@crazyCHRISTcraver ...the idea of being against it myself. I found it in by searching the Scriptures for myself, and it being revealed to me by the Spirit. For an understanding of what I'm talking about, check out the video that I told you that I was doing to back up what I'm saying. It's not about the Way that we walk as much is an arrow that points us in the right direction.
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Thank you for your responses. Hope you have a great day. Blessings
crazyCHRISTcraver 7 months ago
@crazyCHRISTcraver Did I invite "Jesus into my heart?" Yes, tons of times growing up. Do I know Him and spend lots of time in His Word? Absolutely. I just certainly would not explain it with today's "Christian" lingo. This idea of saying a short prayer and asking for Jesus to come and be my personal Lord and Savior, is less than a hundred years old, while the true message of the Scriptures goes back to the garden and beyond. I hate what we've made it into, and I know that I didn't come up with..
crazyCHRISTcraver 7 months ago
@conundrumcrux Yahushua is the only brought-forth Son of the Living Elohim, was the Word became flesh, and I'm doing my best to follow Him everyday. I can't say that He's always my Master, because I know that I tend to do what I want at times and that would make me master. I'm certainly working on this because I know that I cannot serve two masters, even if I'm one of them. I'm just not bold enough to say that He's my Master all the time if I don't obey Him all the time.
crazyCHRISTcraver 7 months ago
@crazyCHRISTcraver Ok. May I ask if you are born again and have Jesus as the Lord of your life, crazyCHRISTcraver?
conundrumcrux 7 months ago
@crazyCHRISTcraver BTW, I have taken much time to see what this guy has to say, I have uploaded multiple series from him, and watched many more. I am working on putting together some of my own videos, and will probably be taking down most of what's currently on my channel. It's time to get into the Word and stop following what's been given to us by misguided men, blind guides leading the blind. If you stick around, I will back up what I'm saying very shortly. Peace and blessings to you.
crazyCHRISTcraver 7 months ago
@crazyCHRISTcraver I did not upload this, or any other reposted video because I agree with it, but because of what it caused me to think about and the questions that I was left with. I do not follow men, and would not recommend it. Don't make assumptions, ask hard questions with a humble and repentant heart, seek Yahuah (YHWH) and get understanding. There is nobody that can have that relationship for you, and only you will be held responsible for what you know and do.
crazyCHRISTcraver 7 months ago
@conundrumcrux I have changed my stance since I wrote this comment you are responding to. I did put up this video for all to watch, although I'm rarely in agreement with Chuck when it comes to what the Scriptures actually say and mean. He's extremely smart, amazing understanding of things that I don't know about, but when it comes to his interpretation of Scripture, I find him lacking.
crazyCHRISTcraver 7 months ago
Comon, craver and Olga. This guy is totally awesome and if you take the time and effort to learn from him you will have a much larger base to build your faith on! - "It's not necessary to go back 1,000 s of years. Why do preachers repeat and repeat old stories? Use today's language and quit obeying the evil."
Erm ok, this is a Bible study, its what preachers do for a living, and its based on The Bible! ...Hence they refer to stories thousands of years old...
conundrumcrux 7 months ago
@ Olga dude! You so rock! That is right on. Blessings and increase in your understanding, overflowing manifestations of grace. Much love, amen.
crazyCHRISTcraver 1 year ago