Mozarabic Baptism

Baptism of Joshua Theodore Suaiden, according to the Hispanic Orthodox (Mozarabic) rite. The baptism, March 8, 2008, was performed by Abp John of New York and New Jersey (of the Orthodox Synod of Western Europe and Americas, or the Milan Synod; http://www.milansynodusa.org for more information) at the Church of San Isidoro y San Leandro in New York, which is where we celebrate as part of the mission of St Eulalia of Barcelona (see http://misionortodoxa.freehostia.com for more information). The Hispanic, or Mozarabic, rite dates back to its compilation by St Isidore of Seville and the rite of Baptism used here comes from the 11th century Liber Ordinum.

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[Pseudoiamblichus3]

He could have at least done it in Latin.

[delomehor]

la Iglesia española siempre fue catolica como lo es ahora aunque tuvo en tiempo y conserva aun un rito propio aprovado por Roma y anterior al concilio de Trentto en el q se compuso el misal anterior al actual que estuvo vigente hasta la reforma liturgica del Concilio Vaticano II

[joesuaiden]

@VisigothSpain I never denied the rite was Hispanic (as in Hispania, since Portugal also used this rite) but the term "Mozarabic" was originally a slur. The rite was once the national rite, and because of its reduction to a few chapels by Rome (the rest being prohibited) the Mozarabs were those associated with those churches. While there is a revival of interest in the rite in Spain, people are forgetting how it was lost to begin with.

[VisigothSpain]

@joesuaiden don't agree at all. This rite is Spaniard. The so called "Mozárabes" were the Roman-Visigoth Catholics who lived in Spain, in the lands invaided by the moors. Where I live, a small city in S-E Spain, still today, once a year, we celebrate a mass using this rite, we call it "Misa de Rito Mozárabe". We have also an Order of Knighthood (some members of my family belong to it) called "Orden de Caballeros Mozárabes de Toledo" (Order of Mozarabic Knights of Toledo).

[joesuaiden]

@CapitanToffe Primeramente, la guerra fue mal, pero no puede descuentar los acciones de los judios subversivas contra la rey; apoyaron los berberes en 711 despues de la Guerra Judia.

[joesuaiden]

@delomehor el Rito Mozarabe-- desaprovado por Roma desde 1080.

[joesuaiden]

@VisigothSpain This is once again, incorrect. Rome suppressed the rite in 1080 except in six chapels. I find it ironic that those people who refer to the rite proudly as Roman Catholic are too dense to realize that Rome did everything it could to destroy it.

[maimonidis]

god bless all mozarabic people, you are the proud of spain!!

[VisigothSpain]

@nycxenia , The Hispanic Mozarabic ritual It's not Orthodox, but Roman Catholic. It's the old liturgy of the Visigoth Christians. Many mozarabic songs were probably written by St. Isidore of Seville. Those Christians who lived isolated in lands ruled by the moors after the Islamic invasion of Spain preserved the old liturgy, that has pervived to our days; It's what we call in Spain "La liturgia de Rito Mozárabe". In the Church of San Ildefonso, in Jaén, I went to a Mozarabic mass. Blesings.

[joesuaiden]

Of course Spain was Catholic, as it was Orthodox. The conception of the Western Churches being "Catholic" is identical with being Orthodox at the time-- St Vincent wrote the commonitory on the Catholic Faith; it is a given he was referring to the Orthodox Faith.

As for the liturgy being compiled when Spain was "overwhelmed by Muslims", I can't help you if you believe that. You are wrong, but such a bald, false claim makes rational discussion impossible.

[vladimir998]

Actually Spain was always Catholic. And this liturgy was compiled when Spain was overwhelmed by Muslims.

The Spainish have always been orthodox, but never Orthodox.

[josephsuaiden]

We had the Latin text. We opted for it in English.