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[fczwartek]

I agree that the constitution is much more than just a "piece of paper", Ridley.

It's a legitimate social contract that, though definitely flawed, has been a catalyst for extending more freedom and liberty to more people ever since it was ratified in 1787 (arguably not Madison intent.)

But whats does a UN flag burn, feds blocking a potentially violent tax protester's house, and a guy being arrested at a "town hall" meeting have to do with unconstitutional gvmnt activities?

[RidleyReport]

that depends on whether the constitution authorizes each federal activity in question. would you say it does and on what grounds?

[Individualism101]

The constitution *is* a piece of paper, signed by no one, and certainly binding on no one alive today.

That officers swear an oath to it is meaningless. Do they swear an oath to you personally? No. There is no contract. The practice is purely ritualistic.

Libertarians, instead, should be helping to define and transmit objective rational standards of interpersonal behaviour; NAP and property rights to the general public. The "constitutional law" approach has never worked and will never work.

[Individualism101]

Oh dear poolman. It does appear you've been called on your bullshit once again.

[nonassumsit]

'It's just a goddamned piece of paper"

[praxisnode]

@Individualism101 can anyone say "the constitution of no authority"

[thanosied]

@praxisnode the constitution guarantees nothing. It says all men are created equal, but it allowed slavery and the arrest of those who harbored runaway slaves. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Federal agents can bust into my house for growing a plant. The constitution doesn't apply to me. It was intended to apply to the federal government to keep it's power in check. Read it some time. The bill of rights was tacked on later because certain framers felt the need to clarify personal liberties.

[praxisnode]

@thanosied thank god the constitution guarantees(if you live in america) you the right to say what you want, it would be sad if federal agents busted into your home and arrested you for expressing your opinions as you have here. just because you didnt sign it does not mean it doesnt apply to you, cause the minute the billy clubbs come smashing into your skull your gonna start screaming constituional violations, and then what?

[Jcolinsol]

But it literally IS just a piece of paper. At what point is it unreasonable to simply point out reality? 2+2=4. 2+2=4.

[FlowCell]

I think my solution is no less valid, so I'm going to stick with it. The only other alternatives are revolution (be they peaceful or violent) or peacefully waiting for the system to decay and die on it's own, just like all corrupt governments do, and start over.

[thanosied]

It's a piece of paper. There are good ideas on it. I never signed it. I never swore an oath to it. I don't feel it is my responsibility to make sure those that have adhere to it. That's crap and I don't have the time or energy to do it I have better things to do with my time. A comparison would be if I drafted a set of laws, then swore an oath to it, then started breaking those laws and expecting someone to criticize me for doing so. I'd wipe my butt with it. My only regret would be a paper cut.

[fczwartek]

I should rephrase that to say the constitution does authorize the three examples of government activity that I listed.

It's unclear to me whether the officers in the video were federal, state, or local.

[fczwartek]

So yeah, I would say the constitution does authorize three examples of federal activity that I listed

Although I think your examples of POWs being tortured, the relocation of Japanese Americans in WWII, and just about anything W Bush said or did are all valid criticisms of gvmnt ignoring the constitution.

[fczwartek]

Regarding taxation: article 1 section 8 "congress has the power to lay and collect taxes." Also amendment 16 .

Regarding treaties (UN): article 6 "all treaties made under the authority of the united states shall be the supreme law of the land."

Regarding the guy at the "town hall"- freedom of speech is not absolute and limitless. It does not give you the right to disrupt a public hearing.

[Falsare]

FlowCell: So in the end, whats the solution?

Except the "Constitution Enforcement Amendment legislation" ? :)

[conspiracy777]

The constitution doesn't belong to the government. It belongs to the people!

It's our contract to protect us FROM the government.

This is the whole problem with BO"s statement about "negative liberties". He is looking at it (as most progressives do) as a document that is to be enforced by THEM (the government) rather than upheld by individuals (we the people).

"A truly sovereign nation is a nation made up of truly sovereign individuals."

-Kevin Plank

[FlowCell]

The extant political parties are far too entrenched and selfish for the voting booth to be effective anymore. Candidates are supported within the two parties based on how well particular candidates support the status quo and/or establishment. You can't just not re-elect the bastards because we have a political false dichotomy forced upon us.

Not voting for them means state level ballot reform and the American People pushing for judicially enforced criminal penalty upon the illegitimate.

[nicko978]

I wasn't being serious I was hoping he would see it and get a laugh. I was just teasing him. I think he has some great points.

[803honda]

@nicko978 you can relocate them but they will still find ways to troll internationally.

[shawgo]

Fox news said that attack was by a communist guy? Is that wrong?

[Falsare]

Flowcell: Arent they responsible towards the American people?

Im to be honest a bit tired of Americans Whining about Bush, Obama, The Fed or that Politicians in general ignore the constitution.

You(the people are the solution) Just dont vote or re-elect the bastards.

So in my view you are the one to be blamed in the end and not the system or the politicians who do what they are suppose to do: Heckle and lie.

The American People= Constitution Enforcement Amendment!

[FlowCell]

The problem with the Constitution is that it has no teeth for enforcement. When Congress and the President violate the Constitution, they are not subject to criminal penalties.

The new paradigm should be that Congress and the President, when they violate the Constitution, should be thrown into their own prisons! We should all support a Constitution Enforcement Amendment!

[nicko978]

Here are a bunch of random meaningless letters and symbols....

Constitution, institution. revolution, solution, contribution, pollution, illusion. allusion, devolution, absolution, retribution, prostitution, prosecution, distribution, execution, distribution, evolution...

[nicko978]

Now that's rude and detestable! LOL

[nicko978]

"Japanese Relocation" Doesn't make sense.

It makes more sense if it were "South Korean Relocation".

[watcher8o]

Hadn't seen Poo-man posting for a while.  I guess he's back from wherever Feds go when they get free time. He's such a dedicated, knuckle-headed troll, he's gotta be making money doing what he does here. That, or he's simply an obsessed and lonely human being whose mother grounded him from the internet. Either way, I recommend he seek psychological help.

[watcher8o]

Best. Baklava. Evar. Definitely a good use for my Federal Reserve Notes. Thanks Ridley!