Clip from "Los Angeles Now"

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[ItCameFromThem]

are arguments are at best the same differences

TIE GAME!

[Argonaut22j]

Fair enough.

I should mention that I actually haven't seen the data on population and infrastructure funding, so my comment is just my personal belief. Although, it would make sense since public officials influence state and local budgets.

However, I have talked with transportation engineers and they told me that Caltrans actually does overbuild, because if it doesn't spend its funds, they are wasted and may not get them next time around.

[ItCameFromThem]

if a Utopian, environmental wary society existed the time freeways started appearing, there ambition to stray away from using automobiles would make no difference to the corporations who would capitalize on them

[ItCameFromThem]

i never thought of the company shnanagans

and im quite aware of the whole corporations took over L.A public transportation

but thats not my point

I was responding to someone who thinks of a freeway no further than Los Angeles gridlock

there would be mass transit regardless of how many people use to take the bus,

if it wasn't "freeways" that separated wild habitats it would be something else...like public monorails...

[Argonaut22j]

Wrong. Freeways aren't always built just because of population. Sometimes, but not always. Freeways are also built because public officials that finance their construction are supported by auto and gas companies. They of course will profit directly. Don't you ever wonder why the public transit sucks in 90% of America(if you're from here)? Its just profit at the public expense and its the history of this two party system, especially Republicans.

[ItCameFromThem]

think about it better

[ItCameFromThem]

since it's dawn

the concept of a freeway was a demographic response to 20th century population increase

i suppose you expect me to fly to work in my flying boat?

freeways didn't spawn from the devil to kill earth

they are as necessary as forks and republicans

[Argonaut22j]

THat statement has several layers. Think about it a little more. -more freeways equal more cars -driving in a car is the most dangerous thing you do all day, statistically -more cars equal more c02 -more cars equal less oil -freeways can separate wildlife habitats -oil reside run off is a problem -long commutes are time consuming -more cars equal more ability to develop -more development means more people will come -more people equals more need for freeways...

[Thelookout]

I was transfixed when I saw this on PBS. This film was so well crafted, it transported me to another level of consciousness. Brilliant.

[2Howl]

i've watched this film many many times and think it's one of the best films i've ever seen. makes LA look wonderfully evocative and intriguing.