Federer's serve analysis

Roger Federer'ｓ serve analysys during 2008 wimbledon 4th round against Lleyton Hewitt

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[ulizinho]

Federer hit 50 aces in Wimby final 09 ! 50 aces out of 127 services, that is almost 4 aces out of 10 first serves!!!

It does not matter much, whether you hit an ace with 220 km/h like Karlovic or with 200-210. if you hit the line, it is unreturnable. Nadal does not hit many aces, but with the spin and side effet and his super game AFTER the serve he wins a high percentage of serve points. Resume: Sampras, Fed & Rafa have the best height. More is bad for moving, less is bad for serve

[shurtugallll]

Federer is amazing, not the fastest serve, but he can place is anywhere he wants.

He uses a single tennis ball as target practice. He places it on the T, and can hit it :)

[ulizinho]

@AllGenreMusic

Yes, that is what I meant. With today´s technology of rackets and strings, it is easier or for the first time possible to hit extreme angles and super topspin. So Nadal and the likes can hit those super passing shots. You cant compare the spin of Borg with the spin of today. In the 70/80s, a netapproach was the only way to hit extreme angles as a volley and to finish the point. Today, the topplayers hit winners from 2 meters behind the vaseline.

[AllGenreMusic]

@ulizinho Eh I don't think it is that dramatic. Sure, today's returners are very good, but there were also strong returners in the past such as Connors, Agassi and Borg yet they certainly did not dominate the field aside from arguably Borg. I think the change in the racket technology and and physical nature of the game has forced players to play the percentages. The problem with Sampras against players like Safin/Hewitt, is he employed the strategy too often which won't work in today's game.

[ulizinho]

@AllGenreMusic

and perhaps, because the average return and also passing shot of todays players is simply too good for the average serve n volley abilities. Or that players improved their return and passing abilities more than they had improved their net play.

Pete lost to Safin and Hewitt in NY...

[AllGenreMusic]

@ulizinho No it isn't to say there is room for serve and volley but today's game is dominated by players who know when to take chances and who can minimize errors. Serve and volley is still an effective play, however, the two problems are that players who employ the strategy do it at a poor time and attempt to do it too often to make it guessable while at the same time, none of the top players, except for arguably Federer, are not used to employing serve and volley consistently..

[ulizinho]

@AllGenreMusic

yes, the ro tennis is more and more dominated by tall guys. Djokovic is a bit taller then Fed and Rafa and has had the best movability in 2011. I have just read an interview with Jimmy Connors. He claimed that in his era it was more difficult to win tournaments, coz there were many different surfaces and thus different player types.

Somehow, the slowing down of modern surfaces forces all players to play 1 style, which now Nole is playing best. No room for serve n volley.

[AllGenreMusic]

@ulizinho Yes but the game is going taller and taller. Federer and Nadal would be considered a bit gangly and tall for tennis decades ago. Now they are considered average, if not short. We have players like Murray, Monfils, Del Potro and Berdych who are all somewhere around 6'4" to 6'6" yet their movement is superb. May not be exactly as great as Federer and Nadal, but good enough especially when they hit so hard. I mean just look at Safin, he revolutionized the game for tall men IMO.

[tvtotalforever]

@ulizinho true.

[ulizinho]

@tvtotalforever

Fed has one of the most disguised serves in tennis, like Ivanisevic and Sampras.

In Feds 1st Wimby title vs Phillipoussis, Roger had more aces, despite a lower 1st serve percentage compared to Phil., if I remember it correctly. And consider this: The Aussie had out-aced super-returner Agassi in a previous match. So, Fed is (or was, as his return game is weak now) a superb guesser and return player. Karlovic outaced Tsonga in 09, in 2011 Tsonga outserved Roger.

[ulizinho]

@tvtotalforever

Probably yes. However, almost all his aces came into the corners, so even if Roddick had guessed the direction, he would have had problems with a speedy serve. Against Djokovic, Roger surely would have achieved fewer aces.

Roddick was on the same level as Roger, so maybe some aces less, some lucky return could have meant the victory for good Andy.

[tvtotalforever]

@ulizinho the high percentage of aces in th WIM final is also a result of roddicks poor return game....