Catholic Apologetics Failure
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@DDogsK You'll have eternity to think about the day that rationality will defeat belief if you do not change yours. I'll pray for you. I suggest reading some books by Scott Hahn ("Last Supper" would be a good one to start), Karl Keating ("Catholism and Fundementalism"), Patrick Madrid ("Surprised by Truth"). Great books to research to lead you to the truth. God bless!
AMIsland1 2 weeks ago
If you stand in front of a protestant church with a sign asking any question that goes against what they believe, you will probably not succed in convincing them. Just like when protestants knock at my door and try to convince me that Jesus is not God. I don't think an apologist's "job" is to convince anyone to become Catholic. Concentrate more on teaching catholics to believe what the Church teaches. I think you would help much more. Start at home; many don't even believe in confession anymore.
fatima34me 2 weeks ago
You come across as intelligent and thoughtful and yet you believe in a God. You hovered around the edges of admitting that there is zero proof of any God.
Thousands of years ago our ancestors believed in many Gods, we have slowly whittled it down to a handful as we have realised what a complex universe we live in.
I live in hope for the day that rationality will finally defeat belief.
Remember: The only difference between us is that I believe in 1 less God than you :)
DDogsK 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@shanana000 On Eusebius, you are still talking about 324 AD or so. By that time the Church was teaching veneration of the saints, baptismal regeneration, Christ's real presence in the Eucharist, etc. etc. Do you believe all that, too? Then why believe Eusebius? And anyway, he was chronicling how the books were settling out, many still divided on this one or that one, etc. Athanasius comes some decades later and finally gets the exact list.
dsr9996 3 months ago
@shanana000 At the earliest (based on only one vague reference by Eusebius) the Peshitta was listed in the mid to late 2nd century, not before the 1st century, and that one was also missing all the general (or catholic) epistles. The "finalized" Peshitta canon did not come until around 400 AD and by that time was missing only the books you list (meaning, it was still the wrong list even that late).
dsr9996 3 months ago
@dsr9996 Eusebius’ catalog names all 27 books of the New Testament. He lists them in two categories: the recognized and the contested Scriptures, or the antilegomens. 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, James and Jude made up the latter category. Eusebius added that the antilegomens were recognized by most ecclesiastical writers and were publicly read in the majority of the churches, but were exposed to some contradictions and were less cited by the ancient authors. Both were befofe Athanasius
shanana000 3 months ago
@dsr9996 Eusebius’ catalog names all 27 books of the New Testament. He lists them in two categories: the recognized and the contested Scriptures, or the antilegomens. 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, James and Jude made up the latter category. Eusebius added that the antilegomens were recognized by most ecclesiastical writers and were publicly read in the majority of the churches, but were exposed to some contradictions and were less cited by the ancient authors.
shanana000 3 months ago
@dsr9996 The Peshita or the Syriac version of the New Testament, finalized well before the end of the first century, is the oldest known canon. It contains all the books of our canon today and in the same order except for Revelation, Jude, 2 and 3 John and 2 Peter. The book of Revelation is missing simply because it had not yet been written while the other books were in the process of being written and circulated. The Peshita is one of the most accurate and reliable translations
shanana000 3 months ago
@shanana000 God is the author but He worked through human beings to discern that which He inspired. As I demonstrated by pointing out that the 27 books of the NT were not listed correctly until Athanasius in 367 AD. You have not countered that.
dsr9996 3 months ago
@dsr9996 They were written sixty years after Christ accended to heaven. and were preached and taught by tyhe apostles before they wrote them down. And where in turn taught a preached by new believers in Christ. That is true succession and oral tradition..which is stin enforced today by born again believers. compiling doesn't mean deciding which books are to be in the Bible...God decides that. Since He is the Author...get it?
shanana000 3 months ago