Is a Two-State Solution Still Possible for Israel / Palestine?
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@Prunesqualer that land is actually disputed fought in the war for survival Isreal wants peace they accept the nation of palestines right to exist but THE plo Dosent they made many compromises including offering 93% of the west bank to palestine but the palestiniaNS ARE fucking stuborn.
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@starcatcher2222 PS what I am asking for is not seeing things from the "other" side, but from lots of sides.
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@starcatcher2222 Based on the evidence of what you post you do NOT look on things from the other side.
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@Prunesqualer I do look at the other side, there are a lot of Arabs caught in the middle who are no threat and simply want to live in peace, they unfortunately suffer they've all lost their jobs to Thais and Indians, as a result of the start of the war after Arafat left camp David, Just as their grandparents lost Homes after the Arabs started a war against the Jews before the State of Israel was ever declared. If the Arabs lost as much land as they claim Israel would be the size of Texas
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@starcatcher2222 Please just try and look at things from a different perspective. What are the roots of Zionism, Islam etc in terms of survival strategies?
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@Prunesqualer The iron wall can be removed the minute the Arabs stop murdering jews
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@starcatcher2222 Please read some balanced history books eg The Iron wall by Avi Shlaim (recommended by Benny Morris as "Highly readable… Shlaim has given us the best, most comprehensive and generally fair minded diplomatic history of the conflict between 1948 and 1999 yet published")- then come back and talk.
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@Prunesqualer It is sad that you seem to believe in creating a 23rd Arab state to be reasonable, You are the type who would have cosidered Hitlers demand for Czechaslovakias Sudetenland to be a perfectly reasonable request. The Palestinian Mandate territory has an arab state ruled by Hashemites why don't you insist as strongly that Palestinians get their state back from these Bedouin usurpers and instead insist on the ethnic cleansing of Jews from areas beyond the 1949 armistice lines?
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@starcatcher2222 You said "The Arabs west of the Jordan deserve no more than civil and religious rights, not statehood".
Our positions seem to be too far apart for reasonable debate. Nice chatting. Bye.
Its not a question of Israel giving up land. The UN partitioned the land into Israel and Palestine in 1948 creating the state of Israel (where no Jewish state had existed for nearly 2000 years) within defined borders. Since then Israel has encroached on the land that was given to the Palestinians. If you strip away the spin of Israels propaganda machine, your left with Israel occupying land that is not legally theirs. A lot more people will sympathise with Israel if she returns to 67 borders.
Prunesqualer 2 years ago 5
What George Bisharat says in fact, is that we have to go 60 years back into History, and start again as if nothing happened in the meantime.
warmperson2007 2 years ago 3