Soviet Test of captured JG 54 Fw 190A-4

Soviet Test of captured JG 54 Fw 190A-4

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[SuperBarkas]

@BossHiggs You have a very interesting logic. You claim that the USSR won the war only because of 40 000 trucks? Means of Kursk fought disguised under the T-34 tanks trucks Studebaker? A fly in the sky, too, Studebaker trucks model-UC-3 La-5? Submarines were also Studebaker? U.S. aid can not be underestimated and we are grateful to you, but you can not tell the world that the USSR won the war only because the United States and Britain.

[SuperBarkas]

@BossHiggs We would have won, and it alone, but would have spent on it for two years and another 20 million lives.

[cryteeek]

faggot russians

[AngrySemite]

@pramboy09 That cavalry/tank story was German propaganda. Polish Cavalry were modern mounted infantry, and well armed with tanks and Bofors 37mm AT guns. They performed very well using modern tactics. There were a few charges, but not against tanks. There was one successful charge where Nazi tanks later arrived for photos. Italian newspapers reported this as a cavalry charge on tanks. Guderian also told this lie. Google "Krojanty." Soviet cavalry also performed very well in WWII.

[pramboy09]

@AngrySemite the book i have says the original strike force of the germans had 48 active divisions and 6 reserve,yes you had modern tanks but not enough of them as well as being short of anti-aircraft and anti-tank guns, and what really didn't help was polands commanders belief in the illusion that cavalry chargers could repel tanks and armoured vehicles!

[AngrySemite]

@pramboy09 True of the PAF. The Army had modern equipment, especially tanks, which were better than the Germans' and organized similarly. Germany invaded with 60 div, 2,750 tanks and 2,315 planes. Slovakia: 3 div. USSR: 33 div, 4,736 tanks and 3,300 planes. Poland had 39 div 880 tanks and 400 planes. Her main problem was a strategy predicated on fighting Germ. alone, in 1942, not a two front war in 1939. PAF were ~5% of active pilots in the BoB and accounted for 13% of German losses.

[pramboy09]

@AngrySemite the main point here if you had been able to hold out long enough the british would have sent a force to help, the fact is you outnumbered the germans with 30 active divisions,10 reserve and 12 calvary but the main problem was you were trying to fight like it was 200 yrs earlier. The germans had mobile equipment that revolutionized modern warfare and your army and airforce had incredibly out of date equipment, which the french and in some ways the english were to find out themselves

[pramboy09]

@AngrySemite so what are saying? the brits and french wanted hitler to invade europe and their own countries? I think you will find that both sides were worried if they sent equipment they wouldn't have enough to protect themselves. New zealand may have been part of the dominion but we were not forced to send our troops our country was not run by britain in 1939.

[AngrySemite]

@pramboy09 Yes, declaring war and dropping a few leaflets was very helpful. In May of 1939 at a meeting in Paris the British and French secretly agreed not to provide any material assistance to Poland in the case of invasion. This violated treaties both nations already had with Poland. Also, the USSR also invaded Poland and Britain didn't declare war on them. New Zealand, BTW, was a Dominion of the British Empire in 1939. It did now become a Commonwealth realm until after the war. Not comparable

[pramboy09]

@AngrySemite It was still billions of dollars they owed when already finacially crippled. sorry? britain refused to help poland when germany invaded? that was the reason why britain declared war on germany! my country new zealand also declared war on germany for the same reason.Not only poles helped out during the battle of britain my countrymen did the same and all of them knew if england fell then there was no chance of not only poland but the rest of europe being free again.

[AngrySemite]

@pramboy09 You are misinformed about lend-lease. See my previous comment. Or use google. Britain refused to help Poland when Germany invaded. Thousands of Poles then fought under British command in the PAF and Polish II Corps. Britain billed Poland for the materials the PAF expended defending Britain in the Battle of Britain. The US did not bill the UK for the vast majority of Lend Lease equipment. The terms were to return it or pay 10% of the cost and keep it. Spent materials were written off.

[pramboy09]

@AngrySemite and who were billing the british? the americans, the british owed billions to america through lend lease and only in the last decade have finally paid it all back, i have read alot of the hardships of post war europe and many countries starved for many years after ww2. Not quite sure how you mean the brits refused to help the polish considering after the war, they were struggling to look after themselves considering the state of the country.