The Universe is Perfect

Everything is as it should be.

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[valhala56]

Maybe I am misunderstanding you on "Sustaining" The Universe is full failure. Lifeless planets, failed civilizations, including out own soon to be failed civilization. We are unable to sustain now at where we are at now.

I belive one Universality is the cyclical natural of the Universe. It begins, it lives, it dies & it happens agains. Isn't that fundamental to what we believe. That we are on endless cycle?

Thanks for the game anology. I play games & see the parrallels to existance.

[SageBodisattva]

Even what is perceived as "failures" in the universe are perfect and part of the plan. There is no such thing as the universe, as a whole, failing. If it happens in the universe, it was meant to be. Anything that could happen in the universe is not going to threaten sustainment and continuation of the universe. It is always full success. Dead planets, failed civilizations, including our own, are all unfolding as they should. There is no other way other then the way things are. (Continued)

[SageBodisattva]

Sentient beings have ideals, expectations and projects... these are the only things that are subject to failure. And they are failures simply because of a narrow subjective perception based on a limited description of reality.

Cycles are indeed a part of the universal system. Therefor, all entropy that occurs cannot be called failures, but only one link in a chain of events. Is winter considered failure? Is old age and death considered failure? If so, we need a new description of reality.

[Professoranton]

Thanks

[SageBodisattva]

You're welcome.

[Seraph909]

For 21 years now, my 'touch stone' has been "THE UNIVERSE IS PERFECT", which is not a Value Judgment. If one sees that no other Explanations are needed. :)

[OneSpotToContemplate]

Dead Right

[PaulJackino]

we have similar thought :) of course, we share the same consciousness :) i have believed you can't take anything out of the world to make it a better place. it takes "negative" for "positive" balancing is a continuation like you suggest. people have argued, why did that family have to burn? well... constraining emotion is difficult, but if you want happiness, you better open your mind and constrain emotion and see it all has a place, for continuation. life goes on within us and without us

[crzycody777]

idk man

[valhala56]

Sage, when you were talking about suffering, it made me think of the illusory nature of it. ie Say as an example you got a phone call from the police & they tell you a loved one was killed in auto accident, You start grieving until your loved one shows up the door & you find it is was a sick joke.

Is this suffering really real? Or is it like you say, a sorta of trick.

To me it's like a cosmic joke or a game as you say, with the chemicals & inputs to your brain fucking with your mind.

[valhala56]

Sage, I just wanted to clarify what I mean't by humanity's misdeeds. What I am referring to here is Humans sucking the Oil out of the earth like there is no tomorrow, slashing & burning the rainforests, Digging giant pit mines as we extract as fast as we can the minerals, sorta gang raping the planet. Also the endless wars & domination of weaker groups of people. & now Super Elites/Super Wealthy greedily stealing as much as they possibly can.

That is what I mean by our misdeeds.

[valhala56]

Well Sage, we have the great fortune to particapate in an unfolding Global economic failure. A truly great time for people to learn new lessons! People have already realized the illusion of consumerism that you talk about. People have scaled back on their excess's.

However there is a lot of corruption operating in our tiny corner of the Universe right now.

BTW the recent earthquakes in Haiti, Chilie. Do you think it is Earth punishing us for all our misdeeds?

[Cashify]

The hat trick is to see how beautiful it all is including all the people and their ego games. Namaste.