Magic Mill, Electrolux DLX/Kitchen Aid 650 mixer comparison

short clip of both machines running the same puny amount of bread dough - 650 g, the KA started to smoke. Smoke is very faint; didn't want to burn the machine.

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[pf892]

You're using the wrong attachment on the DLX. You should be using the dough hook.

[SorryAlrTaken]

Maybe - it would not have prevented the Kitchenaid from smoking though. There is a guy on a bread news group who only uses the roller.

Two days ago, I mixed 2750 g of 55 % hydration whole wheat flour bread dough with the MM. That's a pretty stiff dough. I'd say, that's about the mechanical limit for that machine with the dough hook.

To do this with a planetary driven mixer like the KA - you'll need a machine maybe 5 x the size.

[SorryAlrTaken]

Excerpt from newsgroup rec.food.sourdough:

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:42:22 +0000, graham wrote:

> Avoid it (KitchenAid Stand Mixer) like the plague!! If you intend making

> bread with it, it won't last 5 minutes! GoogleSearch Kitchenaid in this

> group or in alt.bread.recipes and you'll read tale after tale of woe!

> Save up for a few extra months and buy a Bosch, Electrolux, DeLonghi,

> Viking or the new Cuisinart. They all have the power to make bread.

[SorryAlrTaken]

Somebody asked: "Is this a joke?"

No - it shows two mixers with different mechanism both kneading the same small amount of bread dough.

The mixers cost between $ 300 and $ 500. One mixer is not up to the task. This clip should show people to make a wise purchase decision in getting a mixer for mixing/kneading bread dough.

[tikidoc]

@lilbastard551 I agree that buying this creates jobs because you have to get a new one every 2 years.  I have purchased 2 KA mixers in the last 5 years, because they die right after the warrantee runs out, and I have never been able to make good bread dough with the KA. The motor is just too weak. The KA has been crap since being bought out by Whirlpool. I now have a DLX.

[bonniejean1345]

@SorryAlrTaken

Actually the roller is the correct one and still recomended for the dlx, the dough hook was added because some americans felt it necessary, join Yahoo Groups, Mixer-Owner group and read through, most DLX users, don't use the dough hooks for bread, but instead the roller scraper.

[lilbastard551]

kitchenaid=made in america...every other mixer out there =not so much.kitchenaid=american jobs!!!

[BellesAZ]

@SorryAlrTaken = while I like my Electrolux and I use it all the time for bread baking, I take a bit of exception of your intense dislike for the KitchenAid. I agree they aren't what they used to be.. now full of plastic parts, but they are still very good. I have a KA and use it for a wide variety of things that the Electrolux can do, but not as conveniently and nicely as the KA. Not everyone can afford $600 for the DLX.. and KA's work great for most things in the average kitchen.

[BellesAZ]

@pf892 I use this attachment on many of my breads. Using the dough hook is not always needed.

[rurmundo]

who win?

[johnrk556]

Have owned DLX 20 years. For small dough amounts use the roller. Hook for larger amounts. Beats the hell out of a KA.

[SorryAlrTaken]

not sure if you would find any somewhat stronger mixer would have a non-stick bowl. That would be an inside additional cover which will wear off for sure.

The Electrolux came with a plastic bowl of some kind, but I have never used it.

And - why would a mixer not mix any kind of grain? Mixers don't care if they are strong enough. For bread dough in decent amounts - well. see above video clip.

If they are not strong enough, they send emergency smoke signals.

[easycrier]

Having both the electrolux dlx and the kitchenaid I can say electrolux is much much better at kneading dough. I just got done making christmas bread that use high gluten flour. My kitchenaid would have shut off many times from overheating and still not develop the gluten that I needed. You can use the roller/scraper of the dlx just fine for bread, you have the speed too low, the dial should be in the 2 o'clock position. I usually use the dough hook thouh.