Os anticapitalistas: os Bárbaros chegam aos portões | Larry J. Sechrest

Esse discurso foi apresentado na Austrian Scholars Conference (Conferência dos Acadêmicos Austríacos), ocorrida no Ludwig von Mises Institute, em Auburn, Alabama, em memória de Ludwig von Mises.

O texto deste discurso traduzido para o português encontra-se aqui: http://www.mises.org.br/Article.aspx?id=114

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[paunocu666]

@VinRommel é... e vc aqui usando you tube :) Isso sim é ciência burguesa seu filho de uma puta :D

[VinRommel]

Excelente exemplo de "crítica" pseudocientífica ao marxismo.

Mas valeu a pena assistir, se me contassem eu não acreditaria.

Isso é ciência burguesa...!

[moschenjr]

o link para a tradução para portugues está quebrado

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

@mooshieyoal

I'm not sure I understand. Quantity could be described as a property of a set of homogenous, discrete objects, I guess. What does that have to do with economics? I'm eager to answer your questions, but you will have to phrase this one less ambiguously for me to follow your reasoning.

The Austrian method of Praxeology does aim at understanding the world through applications of its theorems, just like the neoclassical schools.

[mooshieyoal]

@PanzerDivisionBOM

It seems like we might agree. Same praexology, and same statistical fumblings are simple errors: They can´t understand truth totally.

The question I ask, is when can´t quantity be considered a quality of any object. The reason is, either austrians use a pre-newtonian method, or are doing almost the same as other economists: understand the world as a serie of relationships understandable as equations and reasonings, or not doing so.

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

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"Not everything can be deduced from the axiom of action."

Finally, something upon which we can agree! : )

Again, I'm not challenging the usefulness or validity of empiricism per sé. If nothing else, Praxeology is limited in that it can yield only qualitative laws. I'm saying that a strictly logical, self-consistent economic doctrine, if properly deduced from real-world conditions, is superior to self-contradictory statistical fumblings such as those of contemporary mathematical economists.

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

@mooshieyoal

I'm well versed in the problems of epistemology, at least as it pertains to economics.

You don't seem to be, though. If you were, you would conclude that the impetus is upon you to either show how human beings do not use means to achieve ends, or to show how the propositions popularly deduced from this pleionasm do not in fact follow from it. You see, challenging the validity of logic itself is an example of what is sometimes called a "self-defeating proposition".

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[mooshieyoal]

@PanzerDivisionBOM

Please. I´m not going to tell you to study some epistemology before trying a diverse field as economy. If you haven´t yet done it, you probably won´t ever, while the philosophy and even psicology students find a joke in what you just said.

The reason is very simple. The world´s economy isn´t in a lab. Not everything can be deduced from the axiom of action. And Logic isn´t something so practically useful in this world.

I won´t answer what you "asked", but think about it.

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

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The pretentious fumblings of mathematical economists with the statistics of some interventionist clusterfrack, do not constitute such an unbiased, rigorous empirical examination of catallactic conditions.

That's not to say that some future examination which is mindful of these problems cannot be more successful! But for now, compared to the pitiful state of contemporary academia, Praxeology is the best tool available for understanding human action.

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

In Praxeology, the first condition is the axiom of action. The implications for historical- and policy understanding cannot be overstressed.

1: I think the same conclusions could be come to by rigorous empirical observation. The problem is that such a method requires one to isolate one variable of a catallactic system at a time, something which is problematic even under laboratory conditions.

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