Wang Kiu Wing Chun - 108 Wooden Dummy, Ip Man 木人樁 詠春 葉問 王喬

Wang Kiu - Ip Man Lineage

Wooden dummy practice aims to refine a practitioner's understanding of angles, positions, and footwork, and to develop full body power. It is here that the open hand forms are pieced together and understood as a whole.

In the video you see the Muk Yan Jong from the Wang Kiu Lineage. There are 108 movements unlike the 116 one. According to Wang Kiu others added extra movements, because the 108 version doesn't completely mirror the movements on one side. The last 2 movements are only there for closing the form. So don't count these.
The number 108 is very important in Chinese culture and martial arts. If you're interested, do some research and it will make you

Who is Wang Kiu? He was a student of Ip Man. For more information just use google.

Hope you enjoy it.

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[SagaraSouske]

Wow you're probably the best/traditional back yard wing chun practitioner on yourtube. My hats off to you.

[eternalspring247]

@SagaraSouske what is a back yard wing chun practitioner? haha. I have been training for many year under Wang Kiu lineage, at least more than 10 years.

[SagaraSouske]

@eternalspring247 Actually I meant that as a complement. I train under the pan nam/ linage with pan shuzao. I consider my self a "back yard wing chun practitioner" because ever since I came back to the us I've been practicing at home.

Don't worry there are plenty of people who practice hard in the comfort of their homes.

Have a good day.

[eternalspring247]

@SagaraSouske haha, no worries. Thanks!!!

[eternalspring247]

@ownage4000 And you're saying that in the living dummy the opponent only punches and stands completely still. Isn't that the same with the wooden dummy? The dummy doesn't move and the arms won't even bend. Isn't it a bit contradicting to say the living version is worse than the wooden dummy just because of this?

[eternalspring247]

@ownage4000 fluid like water and adapt. So that is why I train the forms in duality.

I still think that nothing can replace a real human being. Because we fight against humans and not trees.

[eternalspring247]

@ownage4000 Every form is a sequence and it's still a set of movements. If you had a good teacher during your time in the Wang Kiu lineage, he would have told you that you can break down every step. And practice every step separately on the dummy or living.

Your question can be used on every Wing Chun form, will you ever be able to do the those form in a fight? No, because a fight is not the same as training a form. In a fight there are just too many variables, so you have to be

[eternalspring247]

@ownage4000 Training a form and fighting are both different things. And if your partner is getting angry, than it is still a good thing. At least your 'training' is realistic. haha.

Why would you be scared/not fast, not strong? You can always ask your partner to adjust so you can train better. Or does this means that your partners are not able forget about their ego's?

Why do I get the feeling that you're not listening, because I keep explaining the same stuff over and over again.

[eternalspring247]

@ownage4000 If you follow the real mind of a martial artist, you're supposed to learn from each other and forget your ego. So that is not a very good argument to create a dummy, just because someone gets angry. They say the dummy is created because there was no one around to train with. So the real purpose it not about emotions, but about not having someone around.

If your partner is getting angry and trying to hit you, than that is supposed to be goh sau and not training a form.

[ownage4000]

@eternalspring247 Having said that, I personally don't see why a human should replace a dummy. In my own interpretation, The living dummy is doing the exact opposite of what the wooden one does. Which is strange to me actually. Ask yourself this, would you ever be able to do the whole form in a fight. I don't think so.