For the truth about religion try Robert M. Price, ' The reason driven life ' or John W. Loftus or Victor J. Stenger, ' God, the failed hypothesis' . Also interesting to have a look at the 1500BCE papyrus of Ani, with its god Osiris who weighs the heart to decide who can pass to the land of the living.[ The need to know the names of the gods & the negative confession & other magic texts to get there]. James Frazer's 'The Golden Bough' and C.S. Lewis, 'Mere Christianity'
@theNCGstudios I might watch it, but it even says in james, preaching that might sound really good, but its not from the bible, its demonic. and i dont have to argue with that, i dont think rob bell can, and he doesnt believe in hell now? How demonic is that
So, do you think that Paul was saying that God "made us alive with Christ" 2000 years ago, i.e., God "quickened us together with Christ" 2000 years ago? Or do you think that Paul's use of "made us alive with Christ" has a subsequent sense like an iterative?
A little dialog about this verse, Ephesians 2:5, in context would be a nice piece for this YT video and its audience.
It's quite sad that too many are bashing Rob Bell without knowing the context of his work/heart. So, let's give this verse and others a chance with context and have some beneficial dialog.
Let's examine Ephesians 2:5 for what it says, not for what the Universalist's want to make it say, but for what it actually says. Are you willing to do this? And FYI: I'm not a supporter of Universalism for various reasons, for its hermeneutic is as poor as the Protestant hermeneutic.... Universalism, Judaism, Catholicism, Protestantism, and the rest of their likes are far removed from ethical and rational practices of an honest Read.
For the truth about religion try Robert M. Price, ' The reason driven life ' or John W. Loftus or Victor J. Stenger, ' God, the failed hypothesis' . Also interesting to have a look at the 1500BCE papyrus of Ani, with its god Osiris who weighs the heart to decide who can pass to the land of the living.[ The need to know the names of the gods & the negative confession & other magic texts to get there]. James Frazer's 'The Golden Bough' and C.S. Lewis, 'Mere Christianity'
zytigon 5 months ago
@meinaim,
According to Paul, Rob Bell is a good man.
theNCGstudios 7 months ago
@theNewCovenantGroup stop teaching error, stop twisting scripture.
Read the book of Romans. "No one is good but God!" This is a biblical truth and lesson.
meinaim 7 months ago
@theNCGstudios I might watch it, but it even says in james, preaching that might sound really good, but its not from the bible, its demonic. and i dont have to argue with that, i dont think rob bell can, and he doesnt believe in hell now? How demonic is that
MiniMattGreiner 7 months ago
@MiniMattGreiner,
Watch our video, you might think differently. May God bless.
theNCGstudios 7 months ago
@theNCGstudios Bell isnt preaching the truth, he is tickling peoples ears actually. yeah bells' approach is working but god's isn't.
MiniMattGreiner 7 months ago 2
Bell's approach seems to be working.
theNCGstudios 8 months ago
@joeforHistruth,
So, do you think that Paul was saying that God "made us alive with Christ" 2000 years ago, i.e., God "quickened us together with Christ" 2000 years ago? Or do you think that Paul's use of "made us alive with Christ" has a subsequent sense like an iterative?
theNewCovenantGroup 8 months ago
@joeforHistruth,
A little dialog about this verse, Ephesians 2:5, in context would be a nice piece for this YT video and its audience.
It's quite sad that too many are bashing Rob Bell without knowing the context of his work/heart. So, let's give this verse and others a chance with context and have some beneficial dialog.
theNewCovenantGroup 8 months ago
@joeforHistruth,
Let's examine Ephesians 2:5 for what it says, not for what the Universalist's want to make it say, but for what it actually says. Are you willing to do this? And FYI: I'm not a supporter of Universalism for various reasons, for its hermeneutic is as poor as the Protestant hermeneutic.... Universalism, Judaism, Catholicism, Protestantism, and the rest of their likes are far removed from ethical and rational practices of an honest Read.
theNewCovenantGroup 8 months ago