Part 5 of 22 - Muslim - Christian Dialogue - Dubai 2009

Part 5 of 22. This Muslim - Christian dialogue addresses the question "Who is God and how are we saved?". Held in Knowledge Village, Dubai, UAE; 2nd March 2009. Speakers are Bassam Zawadi and Thabiti Anyabwile. Organized by the Christian Fellowship Club of the University of Wollongong in Dubai with corporate sponsor GDS Knowledge Consultants.

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[BiblesOnLine]

@zacchaeus Is it not written in your law, ‘said you are gods’? John 10:30-36

“And you shall say to Pharaoh Thus says the Lord, Israel is my first born Son.” Exodus 4:22

“You are the son of the Lord your God“Deut. 14:1

“Father of the fatherless...is God“Psalms 68:5

“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.” Mat 5:9

“so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 5:45

“For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.” Romans 8:14]

[BiblesOnLine]

@zacchaeus Think, it is not illegal to think please.

Why did Jews want to kill Jesus?

Jews accuse Jesus of committing blasphemy calling himself (Messiah) prophet of God.

If the Jews succeed killing Jesus then Jesus was an imposter.

If the Jews failed to kill him then Jesus was a prophet of God.

I and the Father are one. John 10:30-36

This is what Jesus was telling the Jews ("Whoever obeys the Messenger of God, he indeed obeys God")

[BiblesOnLine]

@zacchaeus Abraham Fell on His Face And Prayed Genesis 17:3

And Moses And AAron Fell on Their Faces And Prayed Numbers 20:6

And Joshua Fell on His Face And Prayed Joshua 5:14

And Jesus Fell on His Face And Prayed Mattew 26:39

[BiblesOnLine]

@zacchaeus Good thing to do to have eternal life?

16: And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17: And he said unto him, Why calls thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. Mathew Ch:19 V:16-17

Only one God not three in one

29: And Jesus answered him, the first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Mark Ch:12 V:29

[zacchaeus]

@BiblesOnLine he was also called Shimeon ben Kosiba or "son of lies/ deception" after the second revolt against the Romans;their victory was short lived. they thought he was heralding the Messianic Age because of the revolt, and from their false understanding of Messiah i can see why, they wanted a military leader. they didn't get that prior to the Messiah returning as a triumphant Lion, He had to be the sacrificial Lamb. but he is one of MANY false messiahs who appeared after Jesus Christ

[zacchaeus]

also what's moronic about God providing a perfect sacrifice that no animal could ever match? goats, doves and lambs weren't meant to be perfect sacrifices, they foretold of one who would clean sin from God's people once and for all. Yeshua came as a man to save men from their sins. Him being fully God made the sacrifice possible, Him being fully man made it equatable. but all revelation and salvation is of the Lord, not man. we couldn't save ourselves, we are dead in sin. Jesus saves

[zacchaeus]

@BiblesOnLine Scripture says that a fool says there's no God & that in his heart he rejects God. sin has made every human retarded, we do our own thing hoping that what we do fulfills us...then we die. christians aren't perfect people and many have used christianity to do heinous things which it don't promote. but in comparison, islam and atheism have killed, enslaved and deceived more people than christianity ever did. there is a virus of false prophets in the faith but God will flush them out

[zacchaeus]

@BiblesOnLine what you are missing by stating those Scriptures, or should i say assuming, is that the Messiah would fulfill every prophecy (i believe there's over 200?) in His first coming. Christ will ultimately fulfill ALL Scripture, but the ones He fulfilled solidify Him being Messiah (place, means, miracles, death). and many Jews are Messianic Jews, from the first disciples He chose to those today around the earth. they see Christ as Messiah from the Torah and rejoice in knowing Him.

[zacchaeus]

not only that, as christians we are bondservants of Christ. we are owned by God. for He created us and as Creator all are under His ownership, from the repentant to the rebel. but Christ, unlike human slave owners is the epitome of a Master for He Himself became a servant to serve those in His life, burial and resurrection, even those who at first reject Him.

[zacchaeus]

@BiblesOnLine you are presupposing your thinking on slavery into the Text. slavery is not promoted in Scripture, but God uses many menas to bring repentance of His people. in fact, in Ephesians 6:5 that you provided we're told that slaves should obey their masters as they would God as well as how masters treat their slaves. it's not the position you have but your testimony to who you TRULY serve, which is God. God has a plan for His people in every situation from old to new covenant