The GIANT Fractal of Possibility - God Particle to God Field? - Ultra Zoom - 2
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@topbluffa1 Yes I know that and I understand what you are saying :-) , but I personally don't name it god, because I personally know it isn't, but I am beginning to understand why you would call it as such , in the manner of respect and humbleness :-) the problem i feel is that naming it as such causes misunderstanding within the ignorant, who don't see it how you see it... and see the name in Christian and not Hindu sense.
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its not god in the Christian sense but in the Hindu sense.
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@topbluffa1 hmmm I see what you getting at but I don't label it as god, but as the Infinite which contains the universe and more... I guess we differ a little here, and we have to respect our differences, as we would end up in a looping argument, of different perspective. Namaste <3 :-)
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its hard to explain but its the difference between pantheism and panentheism
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@topbluffa1 thats fantastic ((^_^))
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@topbluffa1 the thing is how can infinity predate infinity , it would result in a point of being undefined, since there is no beginning or end just endless cycle of the four armed form. The universe itself is a hyperbolic teseractic fractal, hmm thank you ((^_^))
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@topbluffa1 hmmm you sound like a nice person :/
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just remember it took modern science until the 1700s to figure out the conservation of energy/mass where as the Vedas has that written down over 5000 years ago and passed down verbally for even longer
same goes for such concepts as the big bang which the modern scientists only recently thought of where as the Vedas contains such ideas as the Big bounce (oscillating universe) and also proclaimed that all energy/mass is made of the same IMPERISHABLE substance (energy/mass) as proved by Einstein
I'm all for speculation, but what is it about the latest (well, the discovery of fractal geometry is fairly old really) and greatest discoveries on the forefront of science that brings up so many metaphysical interpretations? Happened with the discovery of electricity, happened with the discovery of x-rays, dark matter/energy etc etc etc...
russellrummage 5 months ago
@russellrummage Yes, it's probably a terrible name for a particle, but it has become well known and at this point conveys to the average person, the notion that it is the beginning of matter...
As for your point about metaphysical interpretations of new discoveries, I'd agree however I don't think it's just new discoveries, it's everything. That is simply the way "metaphysically oriented" people see the universe. The word "numinous" comes to mind. To you, it might not generate this feeling.
FractalInfinities 5 months ago
@FractalInfinities It's all good, I'm not trying to stump peoples imaginations. After all, the more you learn about science, the crazier it gets, and there's nothing better than trying to fit it all together. I guess I'm still mildly annoyed at how quantum theory is invoked to, basically, give credence to any idea whatsoever. One thing I do snobbily request though, is to admit when one's speculating. But yes I get that feeling, everytime I think about it all, but I'm not a supernaturalist :)
russellrummage 5 months ago
@russellrummage With all possible respect, I don't think it's me who is speculating per se. I didn't name the particle, but I do see it as a great metaphor, even if it's never found. So I guess I can admit that as the limit of my speculation. I think the main problem here, is the lack of good English words that can convey both scientific principles and that feeling we spoke of. I'm thinking of words like "karma" which does just that...
FractalInfinities 5 months ago
@FractalInfinities No problem, I wasn't aiming my original comment at you or the video anyway, more at the comments I've read on here. Maybe I should have just kept my mouth shut (ok, I should have), but it's Friday and I've had some drinks! But I'm resistive to when people use concepts that aren't understood very well to promote their individual theories. As I said, I don't mind as long as they admit they're speculating, but too many have far too much conviction when we should be very humble :)
russellrummage 5 months ago
@russellrummage I don't mind discussing with you at all. It's how we learn from each other, rechecking, and rethinking things through. That's also a fractal, or spiral feedback! Interestingly enough, that spiral follows the same laws as the more physical ones that we're used to in everyday life... (Perhaps that also helps explain why metaphysical thinking is prominent when examining large systems, like spiral galaxies or the spiral of learning over a whole lifespan, or between cultures...)
FractalInfinities 5 months ago