The Alpha and Omega is Lord Jesus - Walter Martin

Who is the Alpha and Omega? Literally means The First and the Last?

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[LightHasDawned]

Moses was NOT God in that he was the Eternal Creator. He was made "as God" to pharoah because he was given AUTHORITY to speak in God's Name.

Moses was not "a god."

[positron66]

Of course Moses was made a god to Pharaoh, then could be made Elohim like Moses?

Mat 17:2 And He was transfigured before them. And His face shone as the sun, and His clothing was white as the light.

Mat 17:3 And behold, there appeared to them Moses and Elijah talking with Him.

[stixandpix1966]

@MrsWLeach

BTW....no will or argument intended towards you. God bless you.

[stixandpix1966]

@MrsWLeach

I'm claiming that Jesus IS NOT Michael the archangel.

If you agree then I apologize for reading your post wrong.

As far as Jesus being better than the angels, yes He is but not just by some "office" He holds. Jesus IS God. The angels are not.

[MrsWLeach]

@stixandpix1966 Not sure what you're trying to say. But I will ask you to go to Hebrews 1. But before that, IF you believe that Jesus IS the Archangel Micheal, ask yourself; HOW can an ANGEL be BETTER than himself? Hebrews chapter 1 says that Jesus is BETTER than the angels. That word better refers to NATURE. GREATER is a reference to the OFFICE a person holds. (John 14:28) To answer that verse, PLEASE read Phil 2:5-11 carefully as well as Col 2:8,9

[stixandpix1966]

@MrsWLeach

"Now, JESUS is the archangel Michael"

No...he isn't. 

[MrsWLeach]

@upNyaBizznizz First begotten: UNIQUE. NOT CREATED. If JESUS is NOTHING MORE THAN A CREATED BEING, WHY are we having this debate. The New Testament is TOILET PAPER and the WATCHTOWER needs to cut bait. Forget about him! If us apostates are continuing to go on about this Jesus, then that's our hard luck, but either STOP talking about a created being, or STOP calling yourselves CHRISTIANS. If Jesus is NOT GOD, then the word CHRIST is MEANINGLESS!

[MrsWLeach]

@upNyaBizznizz It also says, LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM (TO JESUS) Isaiah 42:8 makes a mess out of this statement if Jesus IF Jesus is created. First begotten means UNIQUE, not created. His BODY was created in the womb of the virgin, but the WORD was there long before Mary ever existed. In the Begining was the Word..... If you make Jesus a god, then this arguement is OVER because the entire new testament is TOILET PAPER! The New Testament is ALL about JESUS? WHY???

[MrsWLeach]

@upNyaBizznizz Could I ask you to help me with a problem I'm having with some verses. Two are in Revelation. In two instances, John is being rebuked by an angel, when he (john) fell to his knees to worship the angel who showed him what was going on (Rev 19:10// 22:8) Now, JESUS is the archangel Michael, but he did NOT rebuke Thomas' worship. He SHOULD HAVE! Thomas should have been rebuked by this angel! (John 20:28) ONLY GOD is to be WORSHIPPED! NOT ANGELS.

[MrsWLeach]

I don't know HOW Walter did it for YEARS. I'm having a hard time keeping my patience after HOURS!

[MrsWLeach]

@upNyaBizznizz Before you have an anurism, could you answer a question for me; In John 5:22 and 23, Jesus said that he was entitled to EQUAL HONOR with the Father. How is it possible, for a created being, who is NOT GOD, to receive equal honor with God when, in Isaiah 42:8 Jehovah said, "I am Jehovah, that is my name. My Glory will I not give to another...." How can Jesus insist that he is entitled to equal honor with God?

[MrsWLeach]

@lovecarlaa18 YES!!!! 1 Thess 5:23 WE are TRIUNE. My spirit. My Soul and my Body but there aren't THREE of me or three heads, though there are days when I wish! ALSO, In John 19:10 and 22:8 John is rebuked by an angel for worshipping at his feet. YET, in John 20:28, Jesus, (another 'angel' for the sake of discussion) is worshipped by Thomas and does NOT rebuke him. Why not?