Atheists Humbled by Order in Universe

Introducing the Anthropic Principle and the Fine Tuning debate
that remains a challenge for even the most sophisticated atheists.

The fine-tuning observers for Intelligent Design point to how both
our earth and universe are astronomically unique, in both order
and complexity. This demands explanation, since all the physical
laws and constants required for life have to be just right. Life can
not otherwise exist without these many finely tuned factors in order.
Therefore our plausible and adequate explanation for life is that
this universe was created & maintained by a intelligent designer.

Debating the Anthropic Principle:

1) The Fine Tuning of the Universe is due to either physical
necessity, chance or design.
2) The odds are that it's "not" physical necessity or chance.
3) Therefore the best explanation is Intelligent Design!

0:07 2:03 Robin Collins Philosopher
1:18 Lee Strobel Researcher
2:24 11:30 John Pokinhorn
3:09 Fred Hoyles Astro-Physicist
5:13 11:45 Dr. Rodney Holder Physicist
7:07 Professor William Lang Graig
9:54 Christopher Hitchens
11:06 13:22 ?
12:39 Gran Swinart
13:50 Jay Richards
14:12 Paul Davis Physicist

Albert Einstein ~Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. (1879-1955)

Sir Isaac Newton ~The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion on an intelligent and powerful Being. -(1642-1727)

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[Gnomefro]

The only way one could think this argument presents a challenge for any atheist is if one is so ignorant of statistics that one doesn't realize that we have no basis for talking about probability of anything related to the laws of nature because we have no idea how they can vary, or if they can vary at all, nor do we know how many trials were involved.

[MajesticCyru]

@Gnomefro :)

At 9:54 Hitchen's disagrees as he confesses, "you have to spend time thinking about it, working on it ..It's not trivial, we all say that." Yet only after admitting, "they all pick ID's "fine tuning" primes, as the most "intriguing."

At 7:07 William Lang Graig who specializes in the field cosmology explains the need 2 appreciate the "fantastic odds" required 2 refute Fine Tuning of our Universe as the best explanation 4 earth's order.

[PhilosophicalGD]

@MajesticCyru I am sorry but I must call you out on William Lane Craig. He is not a cosmologist, he is a philosopher. Of course some argue that he is an evangelical even before that.

If there ever was any actual or testable evidence for ID I would believe it. I am not close minded. Another point I would like to make is that you would have to be a madman to design a universe in such a way And It is most definitely not fine tuned but sloppy.

[MajesticCyru]

@PhilosophicalGD Professor William Lane Graig is a Philosopher of Science where yes, he does specializes cosmology. He has published many scholarly articles on the subject. 4 links 2 his CV & published work c my other creative.. watch?v=4lIEhLwONgw&feature=ch­­annel_video_title

Your lack of optimism & poor world view shows how close mined u r when u wrote, "...u would have 2 b a "madman" 2 design a universe in such a way"

U would b wiser 2 look @ the world as a cup half full vs. half empty.

[zimtran007]

@MajesticCyru "there is room in" ? Why don't you just fess up and admit that you don't have any evidence for your multi-universe ? Not one tiny microscopic shred of evidence, let alone proof. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Come on bring it out so we can see it ! What you have is spectulation and personal belief, the EXACT same thing that you label "human incredulity" when it comes to others. I'm sorry but you are engaging in the most rank hypocrisy.

[MajesticCyru]

@ZeDingoBlag [ ..they want us to be arrogant.. ]

It's wise 2 seek virtues like humility, to foster richer relationships with others.

"In reality there is perhaps not 1of our natural passions so hard to subdue as pride. Disguise it, struggle with it, beat it down, stifle it, mortify it as much as 1 pleases, it is still alive, & will every now & then peep out & show itself. Even if i could conceive that i had completely overcome it, i should probably b proud of my humility." -Benjamin Franklin

[antonahill]

@guyvermandarkhero What evidence?

[antonahill]

@Flagdue Because we have the audacity to suggest that well-worn, beloved falsehoods are false.

[floydoid]

Take 3 slices of bread. Put a few drops of water on each one. Put one piece in the freezer. Put 1 piece in the oven at 500 degrees. Put one on your counter. Leave them there for 3 days. The importance of the results is biased by our perception. We don't care about the frozen bread, or the pile of ashes. But we rush to the "goddidit" forums when we see the mold growing. Life happens when the conditions are right...and most often in the universe they are not. Simple as that.

[DJPuZo]

Allow me to say this: LMFAO

[ZeDingoBlag]

@Flagdue Believers think that they are humble, despite their rampant arrogance. So really, they want us to be arrogant and lie about it.

[PhilosophicalGD]

@MajesticCyru I do stand corrected on the subject of William Lane Graige. Thank you for that.

The reason I say that you would have to be a "mad man" to design the universe in this way is due to the following:

The Milky Way is on a course of collision with the Andromeda galaxy. Every second another star explodes and another universe fails. I would say more but i am running out of characters.

I think by the way I am a rather cheerful person with a decent world view. AND NOT close minded.