"To the Victims of This Tragedy We Send Our Thoughts and Prayers" by Roy Zimmerman

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[Eaglesfaninca]

@CrudOMatic ???? WHAT???

He hated Republicans, so he shot a Democrat. He hated the 2nd amendment so he used a gun. He loved Giffords so he shot her in the head.

Damn, you may have just giving Roy the lyrics to his next song.

[stizzorm]

Roy Zimmerman FTW! I say this as a liberal gun owner with a concealed carry permit. He's so right about the rhetoric and the persecution complex so common to so many on the Right. Even as someone who enjoys shooting, I think we do need to face the fact that it is far too easy for people with a paper trail full of red flags to get guns in this country.

[InsertName125]

These lyrics are the first serious analysis I've heard about the current wave of right-wing terrorism in this country. Too bad the MSM is filled with bad comedians.

[Makingnewnamesisdumb]

@Tekadakhan1 What is negative proof?

[Tekadakhan1]

@Makingnewnamesisdumb Interesting how you choose to use negative proof as proof of things...it mildly invalidates your arguments..you sound like your trying to prove aliens exist but are soo smart we don't get good pictures of them

[42lebenuniversumrest]

@RoyZimerman: I'm watching this in Germany, and here Youtube would block some videos (like this one) and claim copyright enfringement as the reason. Now, since you upload these yourself, this sounds pretty odd to me. Is Youtube actually correct in blocking these? I'm curious, cause always using proxy servers can get pretty annoying after a while.

[Makingnewnamesisdumb]

@booley Finally, what is the reason for UK knife problems? It's apparently a big enough problem to try to ban everything, I'm surprised they are allowed to have butter knives anymore. Next they'll be banning forks.

[Makingnewnamesisdumb]

@booley And, basically, saying that people shouldn't be allowed to freely get guns is like telling that old lady "yeah, we know you are relatively weak and would be helpless in the event that someone should try to take advantage of you, but at least he won't have a gun, either!" It's immoral, really. You take power out of people's hands and say "only the government should be able to have this power, not the people."

Stats even show that rates of gun ownership correlate with low crime.

[Makingnewnamesisdumb]

@booley The main problem with the argument is, you may not be aware, but guns actually PREVENT more crime than they cause. The presence of armed police is enough to make most think twice about committing crimes. Guns are used to defend homes every day, often without being fired. The reason you don't hear about this more often is obvious - a shooting that kills a dozen people is a much bigger and more emotional story than an otherwise defenseless armed old lady scaring off a burglar.

[booley]

@booley My issue is that so many times the pro gun side has this blind spot: they downplay or even outright ignore that guns ARE lethal weapons. They are much more lethal other potential weapons. And we we do have a problem with gun violence in this country.

And yes you did do that. whether you realize it or not.

This makes any argument the pro gun side makes sound insincere at best

[booley]

@Makingnewnamesisdumb and my point differs from yankees in that I don't believe in banning. I don't think that we suddenly have a rash of knife fights (the upsurge in violence in the UK actually has very little to do with guns being banned) But there would still be unintended consequences (and would only be treating a symptom)

[booley]

@Makingnewnamesisdumb yes guns are easy to get. which adds to thier lethality.

But no that doesn't translate into people being gunned down into the street because humans are not all psychotics.

HOWEVER, we do have a much higher rate of gun violence then a country that isn't in the midst of a civil war AND when a gun is used, a fatality is much more likely.

Even the UK's knife crimes don't compare. (you are more likely to be survive being stabbed then shot)