2011 The Worst Year in ROH History- Analyzing The Roster Part 2

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[Trademark629]

I'm not sure if I'd call this the worst year in ROH history. Going off of what I've heard, it sounds like it's possible that 2002, 2008, and 2009 were worse. 2003 also had weaker quality wrestling shows, however there was a lot more buzz. 2008 had a lot of great shows but I've heard people say that there were a lot of negative things about the product at the time. But this definitely is one of the dullest years in company history. Right now I'm the least interested I've ever been in ROH.

[SandersRobin24]

@Trademark629 , Trust 2003 blows 2011. The storylines and the promos from 2003 is insane. If you watch every show in order you'll see what I mean. 2008 and 2009 murder this year. Because of the great main events and the history that was made in 2002 I'd put 2002 over 2011. Also promos and storylines in 2002>2011.

[SandersRobin24]

@Trademark629 , I'm gonna do a part 3 later on today and just explain why it is, i know it's a bold statement.

[SandersRobin24]

When I said 10x worse the position, that has more to do with overall buzz and the importance of the shows. None of the shows sound like a big deal anymore. You can't expect people to order 3 ppv's in a row for 45 bucks. Maybe have one huge show every 3 months on PPV then release the rest on DVD. DGUSA needs to do much more with you tube promoting their shows as well.

[SandersRobin24]

About DGUSA... I really like the company and would try to buy all there shows if I could afford it but the problem now is that they keep running these triple shots every other month. It's kind of hard to just pick one show to order out of the three because they all seem to be on the same level. The roster is very strong but the degree of difficulty is very high to try to book these triple shots every other month while combing foreign talent with american talent. The roster is great though.

[TSlay1974]

Problem with Gabe wasn't that he wouldn't book with anyone else, which I thought needed to happen 6 months before he got fired, but that he was relying to much on foreign talent when he was told to cut back on the roster. He was also flying any more guys than they could pay for when it came to shows. Also as stale as ROH is DGUSA I think is far worse. One of the biggest problems for ROH has to do with the politics in Japan they can't bring over NJPW guys and the NOAH guys are Hurt..then DG issue

[SandersRobin24]

@TSlay1974 , It's pretty obvious that DGUSA is in 10x worse the position that ROH is in. I just think with Gabe, he had more of a knack for bringing in guys that fit the ROH style. Not necessarily guys from Japan but just up and coming young indy guys. Also the last year kinds of sheds some positive light on Adam Pearce. If Gabe was getting burned out then what he should have done was just focus on talent while you could have Pearce book the shows.

[herd4344]

Agree this 2011 was pretty lackluster. Not to mention was my biggest gripe of the year was the fucking picture quality of the dvd's. They suck so much and it makes me so mad. People can say what they want about gabe....but there is no way he would have produced and released all those dvd's with the garbage quality that their dvd's have now. They look like they were taped off a tv with shitty reception and then burned onto dvd. Don't really know why it makes me so mad but it does lol

[jeffhardynextwweman2]

I agree Truth Martini fucking sucks

[jeffhardynextwweman2]

Maybe Steen vs Davey for the belt at FInal Battle maybe be more interesting, also need more shows

[dabearz27]

I totally agree about El Generico. They really need to utilize him more. I don't think anyone has been as consistently good on the Indys, no matter what environment he is in.

[mickeybabylon]

The first two parts of this video= twenty minutes of absolute perfection. "Don't cut him slack. This is fucking Ring of Honor, man. It's do or die. You have to deliver. If you can't deliver in the ring... I don't care." That should be on a damn t-shirt or something. It is the most perfect explanation of what ROH means, what ethos it represents, and why it's so important to pro wrestling that I've ever heard. Can't wait for part 3.

[Danespina]

@mmawrestlefan But your probably right that the build could be better, but it must be a bit tricky when DGUSA only holds events every 2-3 months. I think they are aware of the issue though, and are tying to better that aspect using the DGUSA/Evolve partnership. So who knows, maybe that will work.

[Danespina]

@mmawrestlefan I don't really follow how shows are promoted for most wrestling products. But just by watching the events, i-ppv to i-ppv, I had no trouble getting myself excited for shows, or following the stories, rivalries, and talent. Everything seems cleaner to be now then it did in the beginning of the year. I like that so much of the talent has evolved right before my eyes, and not just the american guys, but the japanese roster to.

[ThrashAD720]

@Trademark629 Cause TNA have robots in the crowd.

[mmawrestlefan]

@Danespina Really? You would say that they improved? Their last triple shot was a set of shows with little to no build. As Sanders said, they really need to imrpove on making the shows seems special. However, if you're talking about talent, then I totally agree..

[Danespina]

@mmawrestlefan DGUSA already got better in 2011 in my opinion. Definitely left the year better then they started off. With ROH i think maybe once it gets in a grove it'll start to pick back up.