Hawker 800XP - Aspen Colorado Landing - Pilot's View

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Uploaded by on Jan 27, 2011

Ride along with Jim and Kevin as we fly VFR from Grand Junction, Colorado to Aspen, Colorado.

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  • If you guys need to reassure each other every second, go ahead. Maybe one day you guys will become real living, breathing, THINKING aviators like us, and not just robots that only know one way to accomplish your goal. Just keep engaging your autopilot and watch the world go by.

  • As a technique (based on our SOP's, training, line checks, etc) we call airspeed deviations from a target, not actual indicated airspeeds. This keeps the chatter to a minimum during a critical phase such as landing. Once the proper airspeed is reached, if there is no deviation (it is important to maintain the proper airspeed - especially in places like Aspen) there is no call. Once again, it reduces needless chatter.

  • As far as the altitude and airspeed calls, you have once again missed the mark. By not cancelling the EGPWS (even if we could), we get altitude readouts to the ground (three hundred, two hundred, one hundred, fifty, forty, thirty, etc...), Plus this was a visual approach, not an ILS to minimums. I knew how high we were - I was LOOKING at the runway, and I do not need an altimeter (or radar altimeter or a copilot) to tell me when to flare.

  • We always look at the tiller, too. As far as cycling the airbrakes, they can be cycled 1 or 100 times. It really doesn't matter. If they stick on the second (or 90th) time, I will be glad that it happened on the ground. You are arguing technique, not procedure. Each pilot has his own technique to achieve the same goal. 

  • In our airplane, the EPGWS cannot be cancelled without pulling a breaker. In some it can, in this particular hawker, it cannot. I have flown many hawkers with all the avionics options including the Honeywell and the ProLine 21. In some cases, there is an overide switch (or button), but not in all airplanes.

  • As far as the pitot heat goes, it is a lineup item unless taxiing in visible moisture at close to or below freezing temps (a quick look at your checklist will confirm this). Also, the rudder bias check is performed as a before takeoff item. So if a rudder bias valve is frozen, you would see it there (before the pitot heat is turned on, btw.).

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  • wowwwww SO PROFESIONAL,,,,,NICE VID,,,NICE PLANE,,NICE LANDING..

  • Looks like we got ourselves a couple hotshots here!! - how about you put your shoulder harness on when you're legally required to do so. If you want I could have someone call you from your local FSDO with the FARs reference for you if you have any questions on that.

    You wouldn't get away with your Texas cowboy style of communicating if you were flying in the airlines. Completely unprofessional. Captain should just keeps his hands on the yoke when flying - use your words when you want gear up!

  • Very professional, great vid

  • Great video.. I fly a 900Xp and we do it exactly the same in Australia. Just been moved to the the company's Global XRS and will be landing at ASPEN in the next 12 months. Safe flying pals.

  • You guys are as cool as the music you listen to while flying! Thanks for the flight.

  • I have enjoyed the discussion, thanks for being a good sport.

  • Doesn't matter. I stand corrected on the muffs being WOW. It is still not necessary and actually detrimental in hot ambient conditions to have the switches on during taxi.

  • (h) Each occupant of a seat equipped with a shoulder harness or with a combined safety belt and shoulder harness must have the shoulder harness or combined safety belt and shoulder harness properly secured about that occupant during takeoff and landing, except that a shoulder harness that is not combined with a safety belt may be unfastened if the occupant cannot perform the required duties with the shoulder harness fastened. What is it that he cannot reach??

  • You are getting stall, stick pusher, and staatic plates confused with rudder bias heat, since rudder bias would be most critical on takeoff, wouldn't it be stupid to wire the heat through the squat switch. JUST CHECK THE AFM!!

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