Nancarrow: Study No. 21 @ Julliard
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@sandome lets hear you play some Nancarrow
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hahaha what a joke
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radio edit. quit hatin'.
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If you're not going to play it right, don't perform it like this. Practice until you get it right, not until you get it "good enough".
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@sandome They show respect for Nancarrow. Completely! Listen, The whole point of the stud 21 is having all the temp changes. The trumpet slowing down while the Bassoon is speeding up. The notes don't mean shit at a certain point.
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@josephmotter it is really difficult to take you seriously due to the fact that, in your criticism of this work, you spelled the word piece wrong.
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@nstellner So no artist is allowed to interpret another artists song how they want? That's pretty stifling. Most coffee houses would be empty, artists would have a hard time uncovering their original voices, even more people in the world would forget what true fun is... I say, at the very least, give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe this was just an early run-through and was mislabeled and put on youtube without their knowing.
Optimism and kindness wins, every time. Science proves it.
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@tayloreh You don't necessarily have to respect, or even agree with the composer. You're right; music is an art and should be treated as such in all creative senses. However, if you're going to perform a piece by a composer, you should treat that composer's work with their intention in mind. After all, it was their artistic expression first. In this case, Nancarrow's expression was within the metric and melodic precision. If you don't want to follow that intention, then don't play that music.
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@nstellner But why do you have to even respect the composer? I can understand why it would be frustrating to hear this performance for you, especially if you've heard it done in a way that you like better, but at the end of the day, music itself is bigger than any human, living or dead, however deified they've become in music circles. You don't have to like it, but accept it, then see what you can do to forgive them, and yourself, of your grudge. It not only maintains, but expands our integrity
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@tayloreh If you look into the topic, Nancarrow was a perfectionist too. Thus why most of his music was written for the player piano. He didn't want the human interpretation to be injected into his performances, i.e. the lack of metric precision.
Nothing against these gentlemen and their performance, but I highly doubt that the metric ratios are performed to the degree of precision as Nancarrow would have intended.
In most cases, I would agree with you. However, in this case I do not.
I thought Julliard was a serious school of music. This is bullshit. Please more respect for Nancarrow.
sandome 3 years ago 23
hey guys,
you did a very good job of this but if you want to do a GREAT JOB please go buy the score, analyze the sequential patters of the that alternate through out the peace.
This peace is not a bunch of random notes. This piece has form, It has order, It can be analyzed and understood.
IN other words, please do it right next time!!!
thanks,
joe
josephmotter 3 years ago 22