Yiquan san shou demonstration

Master Yao Chengguang's students demonstrating yiquan san shou at Wang Xiangzhai 120th anniversary conference. Beijing 2005. http://www.yiquannet.com

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Sports

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• yiquan
• san shou
• yao chengguang
• zhu wenqing
• zongxun wuguan

[GOG777]

good stuff

[surobakianinpo]

@Thecrazyjords wow, i have deja vu or are all the boxers total jerks? i've read this exact comment like hundred times. boxing does heavier damage to brain than i thought...

[dacheng]

@Thecrazyjords Having head protected isn't controversial. However during teaching process, quite big problem for me is that most students have too strong notion of keeping guard, which actually prevents them from learning the skills which we stress, which is getting advantage during exchange and reaction in various situations, when hands are far from the tight guard. As they tend to keep tight guard, they loose opportunity to work on this aspect and improve those skills.

[Thecrazyjords]

@dacheng Surely we shouldn't be disagreeing that 'keeping a guard' or 'keeping your guard up' is essential. I've just watched the more unedited versions of these fights, and although there are some good, tough fighters there, they commonly keep a loose, wide guard - and that's why they get hit in the face so cleanly, so often. Streetfight or ring fight, keeping your head protected by a decent guard isn't a very controversial criticism - is it?

[dacheng]

@Thecrazyjords First put boxers in the kind situation I was talking about and observe how they fight then, instead of looking at everything from point of view of your boxing experience. There is a lot more to learn. You don't want to, you don't even need to watch the clips with yiquan. As for level or quality, only one of those who demonstrated really trained seriously for longer time. And for the reason of making a demonstration, in each pair they put one more advanced, one lower level.

[Thecrazyjords]

@dacheng Well, having spent years boxing, and three generations of my family before, I can tell you now that these guys wouldn't last a second with a decent boxer. So, before you open your mouth on what you don't know about, maybe you should post some video of you fighting a boxer. Fact is, no guard, no defence, and crumbling the moment you get hit are signs of low quality fighters, in any system. Saying people don't think, to protect low quality stuff, is just silly. Think on.

[dacheng]

Check how it looks when even the best professional boxers find themselves in this kind of situation, and also at situations when they have advantagous situation. People would comments that at those moments "they forgot their boxing training'. Usually people don't understand this kind of situation, and don't realize how important is improving your skill in dealing with this kind of situation in real life situations. People should try to learn and think, before they start commenting.

[dacheng]

The understanding that Chinese martial arts are about 'attack and defence are one' probably hasn't reached some people. Chaotic street/bar situation, some objects around, limited time, as opponent's friends might already run toward you from differents sides. If you train with this kind situation in mind, everything becomes very different from boxing match or something like this. Focus is much more on how to deal with situation of short fast exchange of punches.

[Thecrazyjords]

The concept of guards and defence hasn't reached China.