Speaking to "Jehovah's Witnesses" - part one

I get a surprise ring on the intercom from a lady who wants to talk about the Bible. I'm all about talking about the Bible, so she and her friend were in luck. They may not have felt that way, though, by the end of it...

The issues discussed are big issues, other people need to hear the debate, so I make no apology for sharing the discussion with a broader public. Had the Watchtower ladies agreed to pray with me at the end, I would have probably not shown that part, but as it is the battery cut out just as I was asking them if they'd like to pray, but they declined. They already seemed afraid of taking the discussion any further.

Please pray for these two women, and others enslaved into the incomplete and erroneous Arminianist version of the Gospel which Watchtower peddle, and ask that God will rescue them from the spiritual and mental cloning that cult organisations produce, into a proper regard for and understanding of Jesus Christ.

Discussion of these films has kicked off at a healthy rate, and nobody is being censored. We try, time permitting, to answer questions, but unlike some we do not censor them. The reaction to this film is therefore a real reflection of what YouTubers visiting the channel think. However, for those who wish to engage in a more meaningful discussion where comments are properly threaded and there is no character limit, I welcome commentary to the repost of these films on Wordpress at

http://huliganov.tv/2011/07/01/the-watchtower-trilogy/

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[Asoldier1844]

What kind of camera would fit in your pocket, what kind of camera do you have? Interested in purchasing one myself

[usenetposts]

@Asoldier1844 It's the Creative Vado HD. It's the third time I've bought the same camera - the first rebuy was to upgrade the technology to HD, and the second was because my son broke the other HD one.

[inspirediam]

How did you tape this? Was it a cam that looked like something else. You have it on your body, and I keep thinking she can see it if it is a cell or anything like that.

[usenetposts]

@inspirediam The camera was resting in my pocket, and it was not hidden in a disguise like a cigarette packet or anything. Most people would have seen a lens pointing at them with the red light switched on.

[letusreason1234]

The entire Bible is Prophetic. a Prophecy does not mean to 'Tell the future' It simply means to "Proclaim".

The Bible is God's Proclamation to Us, and 1Cor 1:10 Tells us to be UNITED and in AGREEMENT having NO DIVISIONS....

2 Peter 1:20 says not to interpret the Word of god, His proclamation, privately.....

But you can believe whatever you want. All I asked for was some sort of Biblical proof that God gives different people different interpretations and leads them in various ways....

[usenetposts]

@letusreason1234 It is not all prophesy, of course, although a good 30-40% is prophesy. Of course prophesy doesn't mean proclamation with no future import. You cannot just reinvent words to suit your argument.

You did not answer my question about 1 Cor 1.10 and the word that comes after setting the clear context, instead you repeated what you said before, which is simply being obtuse.

It does not say in 2 Peter 1.20 "do not interpret" it says those who wrote the Bible were in public light.

[inspirediam]

@usenetposts Wow, I can't believe the did not notice.

[inspirediam]

And, you cannot make it your own unless you do your own research; rather than, letting the watchtower do it for you..personal responsibility, bottom line.

[inspirediam]

lol, they automatically think that your little girl was thought of as a JW. They are not the only ones who are "persecuted"...but that is what they have been taught.

[inspirediam]

They are also told that the body is the soul. Yep, they actually believe that Jesus had an org.

[inspirediam]

They have been taught that all their loved ones who have died will be resurrected and that the 144,000 will rule in heaven over the earth with Jesus.

[inspirediam]

their minds have been trained to not look at anything that contradicts what the watchtower teaches them, and if they do that it is not true, but a lie to try to draw them out of Jehovah's org. This is mind control, the bars are invisible, the prison is of the mind.

[inspirediam]

They are trying to figure out if you are what the watchtower labels an "apostate." They cannot discuss this with you, because they have researched how their Bible came to be.