I will first start off with the fact that I not claiming this as the final words of reason. These are just my own thoughts and they are completely open to revision, as long as logic is used in the process.
To begin the argument:
People seem to think that it is impossible to disprove God. Part of this is due to the fact that God is sometimes defined differently by different people, therefore, I will use the most basic quality that most people attribute to God's underlying nature, which is that God is the creator of all things. So then it would suffice to disprove a Creator in which case we would need to understand what creation means.
The dictionary defines creation as, "the act of producing or causing to exist"
With respect to religion, it is defined as, "the original bringing into existence of the universe by God"
This is the same as the first definition so it will be adequate to use the former since it is more general. Let us begin to dissect the definition, but first I will define God as the creator of everything except himself. The definition of creation is the act of producing or causing to exist. This means that in some point in time nothing existed, but wait...time didn't exist either since God hadn't created it. So, we must throw away the whole concept of time and space if we are to get to the crux of creation. If we throw away time, we have to throw away words like before and after too, since these, in this context, are words involved with time. So, what does this supposed "Divine Creation" really mean?
If one took the position of a Divine Creator then you would also have to assume that the Creator created everything essentially and instantaneously since there is not time; there is not time duration. Lack of time duration is instantaneous by definition. Think about the following question, was there ever a time when there was nothing besides God? Well, within the question you would be assuming time existed along with God. In this case, time would be a fundamental property of existence without the Creator demanding it to be so, therefore, not being the fundamental cause for everything besides Himself. I am not assuming you need time to exist. I am stating that to go from one state to another, time is certainly required.
The act of creation requires time since it is going from one state to another, that is nonexistence, to existence. You might be saying, "nonexistence is not a state but a lack of every state." However, for the case of a Creator there is no complete nonexistence. There would be the state in which it is just the Creator and then the state with the Creator and everything else. So, for a Creator to create anything this being would need to first create time. But any attempt to create anything would be impossible unless time existed. If time existed without needing to be created then whatever may had created anything else is not the fundamental reason for everything, thus, any Divine Creator of everything it's impossible. Since God is defined as the Divine Creator of everything there is no God. However, if you want to define God as existence itself or something of the like then surely existence exists. You can see that any other attempt to bring a God into the picture is simply a matter of language and terminology.
To account for how see things seemingly created everyday is a matter of illusion. I will also get into this further in other videos. So if there is no Creator then existence has always existed without any need for creation. So, why is there something rather than nothing? I will also get into this further in other videos. Thank you for viewing. I am open to any arguments against mine. I just hope that logic will play an important role in your perspective. Logic will lead us to truth more aptly than faith. This will be another video topic since some people seem to think the reverse....
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god is logic is god
logiclaw 2 weeks ago
@logiclaw How is "god is logic is god"?
Th0ughtGazer 2 weeks ago
@Th0ughtGazer simple god is logic ,the law of nature is logic,the theory of everything is the definition of logic check out my discovery theoreticalphysics.webs.com
logiclaw 2 weeks ago
@logiclaw Argument 1: By saying God is everything you would have to assume God existed forever, and thus by definition of THIS God, everything existed forever. Hence, things were never needed to be created by a Maker (a Who) they just are.
Argument 2: Your statement is a tautology. So to say, God created logic would be on your definition, "God created God." I see no other way around it really. Any other attempt to bring in a "God" is merely seeking something that isn't there.
Th0ughtGazer 2 weeks ago