Uvic Abortion Debate Oct 21st '09 Part 5 of 10

On October 21st 2009 a debate took place at 3:30pm on the Uvic Campus. The debate featured Philosophy professor Dr. Eike-Henner Kluge, one of Canadas top bioethicists, and Stephanie Gray, executive director of the Canadian Centre for Bio-Ethical Reform (CCBR).

Unfortunately, the only recording device I had was an iPhone, and because of my seating position the audio may be hard to hear at times, and I could not capture the slides each presenter used.

Also, at the end of part 2 and beginning of part 3 Gray plays a graphic video, that I didn't capture. It probably wasn't youtube friendly anyway. Even though it's mostly silent during the duration of that clip, I left that part in so we could listen to the few reactions people had.

After a quick google search I found links to the graphic video. It turns out it was two videos put together and shortened for the presentation. Please exercise caution before clicking these links as they are extremely graphic.
Part 1 http://tinyurl.com/yleljue
Part 2 http://tinyurl.com/yl8538a

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Abortion
• Atheist
• uvic
• education
• bioethics
• eike-henner
• kluge
• stephanie
• gray
• pro-life
• pro-choice
• rationality
• reason
• philosophy

[MARLONBART]

I guess those students in the front row didn't get the memo about respecting freedom of speech, especially on a university campus.

[Brooks148]

I assume you're referring to when they all stand up with their posters. At the beginning of the debate the moderator said they were allowed to hold up signs with certain conditions, those conditions weren't broken. They weren't preventing anybody from hearing or seeing anything.

[soupinator13]

You're completely right, Brooks. However, I did not think that they were respecting Stephanie by having their backs turned the entire time. In order to have any progress made in debates, there needs to be an audience that is willing to listen to both sides, and engage in the issue. Otherwise there's no point.

[Brooks148]

It's true that it might be a little disrespectful. but, when you consider that there were maybe a little more than a dozen sign holders and enough people showed up to probably fill the lecture hall twice (They had to hold two debates), you have to admit that it was extremely civil for an abortion debate.

I did feel the signs were a little much though.

[amariner5]

Thankyou for making this available. I am using the whole series to educate my Pro-Life students on not just what we stand for, but how to commnicate. Miss Gray is a hero, and I am grateful.

Logic! Grace!

Well Done!!

[atthebluebus]

those people holding signs are pathetic. why do they think their crummy signs will advance either way any of these well-spoken people's arguments?

no one came to read their signs. they came to listen to a reasoned exchange.

[SocialDissimulation]

Except she got utterly destroyed in this debate.

[smike06]

Pretty heavy words from a non-biologist. Kluge wins by a land slide.

[soupinator13]

Good point. These things can get reeeallly out of hand and for the most part it remained pretty civil.