Rachel Maddow on MSNBC's Pennsylvania Coverage - Part 1 of 4

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Rachel Maddow, Pat Buchanan, and Eugene Robinson join David Gregory on MSNBC's Coverage of the Democratic primary in Pennsylvania (4/22/08).

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[tigerone1970]

If 'Obama is unelectable', then what does that make Hillary Clinton?

Because Obama is ahead of Clinton.

[raiders4life2010]

god i hate rachel maddow

[tigerone1970]

I hate to break it to you, but Hillary has so much baggage that she doesn't stand a chance.

[tigerone1970]

Do you want to talk about baggage? Hillary Care, Blue Dress, Sigar, Paula Jones (who will become an extra special Fox anchor), Kathleen Willey, Bill Clinton, Testicle Lock Box...

Here is an ad for you. John McCain is dragged out of the sea by the Northvietnamese. He is interviewed and forced to confess. Switch to Hillary talking of her heroics in Bosnia, with the images of the peaceful welcome she received.

Which says 'commander in chief' and which one says liar and lightweight?

[sunshinebutmorerain]

At the same time, Obama's got far more baggage than, say, Kerry, and the media will not shut up about Wright, particularly when the Repub 520s start airing on Fox News and elsewhere.

The fact that the story has less substance than, again, NAFTA, is to Barack's detriment as far as media coverage.

And if enough white, working class voters are convinced that this guy is a black militant that hates his own country, it won't matter that they're out of work and on food stamps -- Obama still loses.

[sunshinebutmorerain]

Do you understand the media?

NAFTA is a golden calf of the MM, and they to this day make fun of Perot's "giant sucking sound" portent even though though it all came true.

Facts don't matter to the media. Nor do they necessarily matter to halfwit voters, in primaries or otherwise.

How do you think that neocon ass-puppet McCain got primary wins in states that listed illegal immigration as the most salient issue of the day? The memory of the average voter is barely longer than a news cycle.

[tigerone1970]

Dream on. The reverend Wright is so much more important than NAFTA - which Hillary Clinton strongly supported - and the war - which she voted for and wants to expand into Iran.

[sunshinebutmorerain]

I repeat: Do you understand the difference between primaries and the general election?

That's Obama's problem. Which you'd, of course, like to ignore.

It's one thing to be in love with your pain, emo or hot topic goth style, but it's another to be so fucking stupid that you can't understand why it's a incoherent and illogical to slit your wrists when all you want to do is embrace life and enjoy the bright, sunny day.

Posts like yours help me to understand why suicide bombers support Obama.

[sunshinebutmorerain]

"Hillary Clinton only appeals to certain women's ego."

If that's the case, it's interesting how she parlays that marginal base into easy victories over Obama in every major state, isn't it?

Maybe Jeremiah Wright's left/right brain theory shouldn't be looked at only racially but within political theory, particularly that of winners versus losers.

Most likely would explain how the Democrats have been insane enough to nominate names like McGovern, Mondale, Kerry and, soon, Obama.

[sunshinebutmorerain]

"'The militants'? Who are 'the militants' in the Democratic party?"

Perhaps the same people that think hanging out with terrorists is analogous to playing basketball with a Ron Paul supporter, or that Jeremiah Wright has some salient points...until he becomes a political liability, in which case it's time to throw him under the same bus that hit Barack's white granny a month back. (so much for a "different" kind of politics)

In other words, Obama and many of his supporters.

[tigerone1970]

'The militants'? Who are 'the militants' in the Democratic party?

The problem with Hillary is that she has been slapped around by the Republicans for so long, that she thinks the only way to win is to join the bullies. Because she couldn't beat them.

Barack Obama stands for a very different kind of politics, and that is why more people have voted for him.

Hillary Clinton only appeals to certain women's ego.