Catholic Faith is the Christian History of the World. Religions within Catholicism is numerous, but the Nicene Creed or Apostle's Creed is the Catholic Faith, which without, there is no Christian History of any worth mentioning. Before 1054 A.D. the whole Church was Catholic or "Universal Orthodox" And led by the Church Fathers, the greatest Theologians in the history of Christianity are Catholic. Even the Reformation is very Catholic as opposed to the Rabbinic Tradition holds.
@cburton103 No,...had no child to the day of her death. Means she never had any. TO is NOT the same as TILL or UNTIL! WOW!
Also, you skipped a verse 1Cor.15:24-25 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He put's an end to all rule and all authority and power. For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT CAN'T YOU!
@JeffSal999 By this logic, these passages wouldn't make sense:
2 Sam. 6:23: And Michal the daughter of Saul had no child to (until) the day of her death. (Does this mean she had children after she died?)
1 Cor 15:25: For he (Christ) must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. (Does this mean Christ’s reign will end? By no means! Luke 1:33 says, "he will reign over the house of Jacob forever and of his kingdom there shall be no end.")
@cburton103 Joseph KNEW,(had intercourse)with Mary after Jesus was born! Mat.1:24-25, "...did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife, and did not know her "TILL" she brought forth her first born Son." Meaning he DID KNOW her AFTER Jesus was born! VERY CLEAR!
@villian714 God brought me the bible! If Satan(or the papacy) had it's way, it would still be a crime punishable by death to own/posess or even READ a bible! Thank GOD for THE HOLY SPIRIT opening Martin Luther's eyes! You see the papacy couldn't have the people finding out that their salvation is a FREE GIFT FROM GOD! Just think of ALL the POWER and CONTROL and MONEY they would lose! Charging poor people money to get into heaven or forgive sins! Confessing sins to MEN who call themselves father!
@villian714 Tell me where in the bible she was "taken-up"to heaven like the (VERY FEW) mentioned! Also, she IS NOT the mother of God! She was an earthly young woman who was BLESSED/FORTUNATE to be chosen to bear the "child OF GOD!" Jesus was A MAN'S BODY! It was the Father in heaven that made Him God! As Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I AM!" "The ONLY way to the Father, is through ME!"(NOT MARY or SAINTS!) People who love God with ALL their heart,mind,and soul and spread His word are SAINTS.
Catholic Faith is the Christian History of the World. Religions within Catholicism is numerous, but the Nicene Creed or Apostle's Creed is the Catholic Faith, which without, there is no Christian History of any worth mentioning. Before 1054 A.D. the whole Church was Catholic or "Universal Orthodox" And led by the Church Fathers, the greatest Theologians in the history of Christianity are Catholic. Even the Reformation is very Catholic as opposed to the Rabbinic Tradition holds.
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
If the catholic church is the one true religion your rite, thats all it is a religoin. no relationship involve.read isiah 9:6
TheOneness07 1 month ago
catholics are old school
joshuaringor 1 month ago
@JeffSal999 Friend, the words are the same in Greek, which is the source text for modern translations, so your apparent distinction holds no value.
Also, I didn't claim that that verse supports Mary's perpetual virginity. I merely said that it does not oppose Mary's perpetual virginity.
I'm not sure what your point is in quoting those verses from 1 Corinthians.
Please read my posts more carefully in the future so you don't attack a strawman argument again.
cburton103 1 month ago
@cburton103 No,...had no child to the day of her death. Means she never had any. TO is NOT the same as TILL or UNTIL! WOW!
Also, you skipped a verse 1Cor.15:24-25 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He put's an end to all rule and all authority and power. For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT CAN'T YOU!
JeffSal999 1 month ago
@JeffSal999 By this logic, these passages wouldn't make sense:
2 Sam. 6:23: And Michal the daughter of Saul had no child to (until) the day of her death. (Does this mean she had children after she died?)
1 Cor 15:25: For he (Christ) must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. (Does this mean Christ’s reign will end? By no means! Luke 1:33 says, "he will reign over the house of Jacob forever and of his kingdom there shall be no end.")
Therefore, this doesn't disprove Mary's PV.
cburton103 1 month ago
@cburton103 Joseph KNEW,(had intercourse)with Mary after Jesus was born! Mat.1:24-25, "...did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife, and did not know her "TILL" she brought forth her first born Son." Meaning he DID KNOW her AFTER Jesus was born! VERY CLEAR!
JeffSal999 1 month ago
@villian714 God brought me the bible! If Satan(or the papacy) had it's way, it would still be a crime punishable by death to own/posess or even READ a bible! Thank GOD for THE HOLY SPIRIT opening Martin Luther's eyes! You see the papacy couldn't have the people finding out that their salvation is a FREE GIFT FROM GOD! Just think of ALL the POWER and CONTROL and MONEY they would lose! Charging poor people money to get into heaven or forgive sins! Confessing sins to MEN who call themselves father!
JeffSal999 1 month ago
@villian714 Tell me where in the bible she was "taken-up"to heaven like the (VERY FEW) mentioned! Also, she IS NOT the mother of God! She was an earthly young woman who was BLESSED/FORTUNATE to be chosen to bear the "child OF GOD!" Jesus was A MAN'S BODY! It was the Father in heaven that made Him God! As Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I AM!" "The ONLY way to the Father, is through ME!"(NOT MARY or SAINTS!) People who love God with ALL their heart,mind,and soul and spread His word are SAINTS.
JeffSal999 1 month ago