When science contradicts Scripture: how theists cope (part 1 of 3)

By Todd Allen Gates, author of "Dialogue with a Christian Proselytizer"
http://www.amazon.com/review/product/1601450893/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?_enc...

How True-Believing theists cope when science contradicts Scripture: the literalist approach vs. the allegorical approach. (This is a re-make of a video I had made back in Nov 2007, which I had then called "Science, religion, and 'truth' vs. 'Truth'.")

This video is based of the following material from "Dialogue with a Christian Proselytizer":

* Science and "Truth" (endnote 2)
* Christianity vs. Copernicus and Galileo (endnote 9)
* Faith Alone" vs. "Faith & Facts" (endnote 38)
* excerpts of dialogue between the book's two characters: Chris Proselman, the proselytizer; and "Scott Crates," the skeptic

My four YouTube channels:

- http://youtube.com/user/ToddGates - my musician channel

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- http://youtube.com/user/ToddAllenGates2 - where I discuss the ideas in my book "Hunting, Gathering, & Videogames" (such as "Why do we have to work?" and "Why do we have to use money?" and "How should we define 'success'?")

- http://youtube.com/user/BlasphemyPiano - where I play the background piano accompaniment for songs in Nick Gisburne's book of lyrics "Blasphemy! Anthems for Atheists."

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[shandcunt]

@rbl777 I gotta say, everytime you explained how, the way I currently experience the world is fake, lacking in depth and i guess all together mis-understanding the universe....well i gotta say, it came off as condesending, a little bit aye? not only that but you refer to "Ego" preventing us understanding the real world? its ironic

Thanks for explaining, i recognise its hard to explain that everyone elses experience of the world is fake because of their ego - without sounding arrogant hypocrit

[ToddAllenGates]

@shandcunt

Your last two comments were posted to me instead of rbl777 (so s/he won't receive any notification about your reply).

[shandcunt]

@rbl777 What is it about the spiritual world that kabblah deals with?

[ToddAllenGates]

@shandcunt

> What is it about the spiritual world that kabblah deals with?

FYI -- you responded to me instead of rbl777 (so s/he won't be notified of your reply).

[shandcunt]

@rbl777 Ohh, okay.

So Kabbalah is a jewish version of 1960's circa spiritual dance revolution where you need to free yourself from the "Fake - superficial" world to experience the "Real" world thats calling you, and you do this via getting rid of "Ego" which is preventing you from dancing like a tie dye hippie fool, once you get rid of "Ego" you can then "Experience and Understand the Real World" as opposed to this fake world im living in at the moment

[rbl777]

@shandcunt kabbalah deals with revealing the real universe which is the meaniing of life which means godlike or Adam from the word Dome in Hebrew means "alike".

christians misiterpred it saying that man looks like god. no

like "god" meaning loving other as yourself

loving not in a sense "how do you like you fish done?"

but in a sense of loving everyone and forging everything as to your own CHILD.

coz really people dont exist its all a conciousness dream!

but thx to your ego you cannot

[rbl777]

@shandcunt only humans united

[rbl777]

@shandcunt meaning of life. you only know the universe through ur senses

so in fact you dont know the "universe" u know the "interpretation of your sense" of it

[NorthForkFisherman]

@rbl777 "Citation Needed"

[rbl777]

@PalulukanMakto I'm a tool? And can you prove the imaginary world?

Can you see the radio wavelengths, wifi, cellphone wireless? No? Does it means its "imaginary"?

In fact the world we live in today is imaginary! It's in the back of your brain! Your reality is foolish. Because you don't see watss outside of you, you see whatever your "brain" produces and then your consciousness realizes that. So your perception of reality is distorted & everybody else on "earth" that only exists in our heads...

[rbl777]

@aaronwilliams4w the substance of the universe is not matter, its consciousness