The National Mariene Fisheries Service approved a waiver under the Mariene Mammal Protection Act allowing predators of endangered species to be killed. Only to be stopped by activists who claim the problems are due to overfishing and habitat degradation.
Being someone who works in OR hatcheries I've seen first hand how low Col. R. trib. salmon populations are. Saying that I blame sea lions for low salmon runs is ignorant. I just want to protect the few fish we have left.
When we're the ones trying to extend the life of the endangered salmon and dwindling sturgeon then yes, I believe we can cull problematic sea lions. This isn't so that we have fish to catch, we already do from hatcheries. This is to SAVE the ENDANGERED salmon from protected sea lions.
Something quite similar was done with California mountain lions to protect big horn sheep.
It's amazing how you think you know more about the ecosystem than a fisheries biologist...
I don't think you understand the biology of the fishery. Sturgeon aren't sexually mature for years and the wild salmon is a highly limited resource. If an animal can come in the river unchecked and take as many fish as it can catch then we have an obvious problem in mitigating fish loss due to predation, just the same as if it were a person were unlawfully using gillnets like you mentioned.
@Trichomes503 The reason is simple economics. Sea Lions don't pay. lol Sorry, you can go on and on, and I will always side with sanity, rather then selfishness.
@Trichomes503 And I suppose that the fishermen that somehow believe they have the right, to pick and choose, have more of a right to hunt endangered fish, then the sea lions doing all they know how to do, and that is to survive. How silly, huh? Yes, so let's continue to allow the use of Gil Nets, and while we are at it, let's up the limit of fish allowed to be caught, so we can get all those shiny gold tourist dollars. Yes, it's okay to kill the sea lions, so long as we human get what we want.
Sea lions aren't picking and choosing hatchery raised fish like fishermen below Bonneville have to. They're eating whatever they can catch including threatened salmon ESU Steelhead and Sturgeon.
There IS a reason ODFW is doing what they have done.
@thedevilsdaughter65 Chinook Salmon are a threatened species, so that somehow justifies killing Sea Lions who eat them. But yet at the same time they are open for sport fishing, and the use of Gil Nets by commercial fishermen here in Oregon. See the irony in that? So my whole point is, what right do we have to say Sea Lions are killing off the Salmon, while we are allowed to hunt them they way we do. Like I said, there needs to be a balance. We can go shopping, while the Sea Lions can not.
@Trichomes503 I am not sure I even understand your question, or your position on this issue. If ya want to know my opinion, well I think there has to be a balance of sorts. End sport fishing? Well no I do not, repair tributary damage, yes, remove Bonneville- no. Kill Sea lions because they eat the fish? Heck no. Mankind has this impression that we are somehow more entitled to use the environment, then the animals that rely on that same environment., for their survival.
@thedevilsdaughter65
The National Mariene Fisheries Service approved a waiver under the Mariene Mammal Protection Act allowing predators of endangered species to be killed. Only to be stopped by activists who claim the problems are due to overfishing and habitat degradation.
Being someone who works in OR hatcheries I've seen first hand how low Col. R. trib. salmon populations are. Saying that I blame sea lions for low salmon runs is ignorant. I just want to protect the few fish we have left.
Trichomes503 1 year ago
@thedevilsdaughter65
When we're the ones trying to extend the life of the endangered salmon and dwindling sturgeon then yes, I believe we can cull problematic sea lions. This isn't so that we have fish to catch, we already do from hatcheries. This is to SAVE the ENDANGERED salmon from protected sea lions.
Something quite similar was done with California mountain lions to protect big horn sheep.
It's amazing how you think you know more about the ecosystem than a fisheries biologist...
Trichomes503 1 year ago
@thedevilsdaughter65
I don't think you understand the biology of the fishery. Sturgeon aren't sexually mature for years and the wild salmon is a highly limited resource. If an animal can come in the river unchecked and take as many fish as it can catch then we have an obvious problem in mitigating fish loss due to predation, just the same as if it were a person were unlawfully using gillnets like you mentioned.
Trichomes503 1 year ago
@Trichomes503 The reason is simple economics. Sea Lions don't pay. lol Sorry, you can go on and on, and I will always side with sanity, rather then selfishness.
thedevilsdaughter65 1 year ago
@Trichomes503 And I suppose that the fishermen that somehow believe they have the right, to pick and choose, have more of a right to hunt endangered fish, then the sea lions doing all they know how to do, and that is to survive. How silly, huh? Yes, so let's continue to allow the use of Gil Nets, and while we are at it, let's up the limit of fish allowed to be caught, so we can get all those shiny gold tourist dollars. Yes, it's okay to kill the sea lions, so long as we human get what we want.
thedevilsdaughter65 1 year ago
@thedevilsdaughter65
Sea lions aren't picking and choosing hatchery raised fish like fishermen below Bonneville have to. They're eating whatever they can catch including threatened salmon ESU Steelhead and Sturgeon.
There IS a reason ODFW is doing what they have done.
Trichomes503 1 year ago
@Trichomes50 I never said anything about hatcheries, and you seemed to have missed my point all together. But that's okay.
thedevilsdaughter65 1 year ago
@thedevilsdaughter65
Wild salmon aren't raised in hatcheries. Sturgeon aren't either. We can't let the problem keep going like it is.
No one wants to see the sea lions die, but relocation does not work. Look into what happened with the Ballard Rocks sea lions.
Trichomes503 1 year ago
@thedevilsdaughter65 Chinook Salmon are a threatened species, so that somehow justifies killing Sea Lions who eat them. But yet at the same time they are open for sport fishing, and the use of Gil Nets by commercial fishermen here in Oregon. See the irony in that? So my whole point is, what right do we have to say Sea Lions are killing off the Salmon, while we are allowed to hunt them they way we do. Like I said, there needs to be a balance. We can go shopping, while the Sea Lions can not.
thedevilsdaughter65 1 year ago
@Trichomes503 I am not sure I even understand your question, or your position on this issue. If ya want to know my opinion, well I think there has to be a balance of sorts. End sport fishing? Well no I do not, repair tributary damage, yes, remove Bonneville- no. Kill Sea lions because they eat the fish? Heck no. Mankind has this impression that we are somehow more entitled to use the environment, then the animals that rely on that same environment., for their survival.
thedevilsdaughter65 1 year ago