What's my line? Bishop Fulton J. Sheen

What's my line? Bishop Fulton J. Sheen

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[TMThesaurus]

The Church is a prophet making organisation

[jvolstad]

@neborac The world sucks today. I sometimes wish I lived in the 1950's.

[Hairball131]

What class and respect the panel showed, you wouldnt get that today! Archbishop Sheen was a great great man and these lovely people treated him with the grace and respect he deserved. The kissing of his ring at the end was wonderful to see. Sadly many Bishops and Priests have disgraced the name of the Church and clergy no longer recieve the respect that should be afforded them. God help the Church.

[skybart]

Wow, 50 bucks must have gone a long way in the '50's!

[xander7ful]

He was indeed head of the Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith in the U.S., the American side of the same Congregation that current Pope Benedict was head of in Rome.

[MsPandaRosa]

@cobalt100

Blessed Bishop Sheen himself admitted it, and yet he did give much of his funds away to the world's poor, esp lepers.

[MsPandaRosa]

@drumcircler

tho i respectfully disagree with much of your statement, the comparison of Bishop Sheen and Bela Lugosi does make me think, think a great deal. I like it!

my grprnts were devoted to Bishop Sheen and Groucho Marx, helps again one to think.

[thesocialpet]

@jvolstad In all honesty, if you were not white and male, the 1950's sucked pretty good. No equal rights for anybody. I will take today's world, then the narrow mindedness of the 1950's. These shows are great, but clearly minorities were not equally represented.

[MrWildbill20056]

@TheTubePortal You really aren't making a case. You concede that early church fathers acknowledged this concept of distinct personalities.

When it comes to Irenaeus, you are simply wrong. He wrote explicitly on the definitions of God the father, God the son, and God the Holy Spirit.

Athenagoras a somewhat contempory wrote explicitly on the Trinitarian concept.

There was nothing new about this idea come Nicaea, which acted purely to clarify.

[TheTubePortal]

@MrWildbill20056 If you're unwilling to consider facts of history, but merely playing apologist then there's no point in continuing the discussion because it's based on your faith, not facts. The three you refer to did not affirm the Trinity as later defined (three, co-equal, homoousios), they merely used the verbal formula of father/son/spirit. The earliest was Tertullian in the 3rd century. The doctrine was not fully defined until the Third Synod of Toledo in 589 AD.

[MrWildbill20056]

@TheTubePortal Considering that the Catholic Church is the direct descendent of the early Church fathers, then of course nearly all beliefs/ideas have been held or developed therein.

However let's take the Trinity. Ignatius in 110 affirmed this belief. Justyn the Martyr in 130.

Iraneus, 145 years prior to Nicaea, when writing 'against Herecies' specifically presented Trinitarian belief as the standard, and others as Herecy.

Not new at all :)

[TheTubePortal]

@MrWildbill20056 I'm speaking about it within the context of existing creeds and domata, nearly all of which were formulated or inspired by the Roman Catholic Church. Of course there were varied views on issues, which is what made the early church vibrant. However, when it comes to the core doctrines there was great unanimity during the first two centuries. This is well established in existing writings. I'm not referring to "heretical" groups like Montanists or Gnostics.