Hitchens Vs Tharoor - Freedoms of Speech - Part 4/9
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@blupunksp why the issue was absurd( the mf hussain paintings) is because the number of hindus offended was minuscule. and that hussain was hostage to a group of thugs trying to cash in on sensationalism. mulsims on the other hand are much more reactionary by nature so the cartoons were intended to be incendiary. the response to the paintings by hindus was a complete surprise and that is why it was regrettable...hussain had no such incendiary intention.
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@blupunksp no its also that tharoor is part of the congress party who are muslim appeasers. so tharoor had to speak with skill in a tight place...
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@zencat999 basically simply put, freedom comes with responsibility towards society and a fellow human. two sides of the same coin... dont care if its hitch or tharoor who argues the opposite
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@zencat999 ohh dont u wish u lived in a world where the insane walk scott free and yell out wutever they please, whenever they feel like purging a distressful buildup of gases!! It is a free world after all !! As long as its upon the rest of us to evaluate and judge the context in which it was said!
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@tannumyjaan if someone yells fire in a theater YOU have a responsibility to look around, smell if there is smoke, see if there really is fire and if there is get out. if there is not you call the guy a loony and sit down and enjoy the rest of the show. its the responsibility of the listener to evaluate what is being said and then act accordingly.
the freedom to speak has to remain or we do not live in a free society.
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@zencat999 I think u dint get his point !! !! Tharoors point is that if your statements are incongruent with reality, society would dub u mad and ur right to freedoms essentially become null and void cuz u wouldnt be part of society anymore .. that is his general point !! and while making his argument he uses the "fire in a crowded theatre quote " to establish sanity as a pre requisite to liability and liabilty as a requirement for unregulated freedom
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What this debate is really about is the following question: What's to be done with the human population that has an IQ of less than 120?
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Tharoor is a really smart guy, Hitchens is amazing, great debate.
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tharoor is a hypocrite ....anglicized punk
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Why is it that Tharoor speaks of the necessity for caution being exercised by the danish press while publishing the cartoons, while he readily takes M.F Hussain's side on a similar issue where he directly condemns the hindu extremists..Why does one group have a right to be offended while the other doesnt? This is the fear Hitchens speaks of.Tharoor is scared to speak against the muslims too directly, but he can about the hindus because he is one himself.I am surprised this didn't get pounced on.
blupunksp 6 months ago 11
@blupunksp Tharoor makes the point that the Danish publisher which solicited and printed the incendiary cartoons knew full well the kind of consequences they would provoke. Hussain, on the other hand, had been using symbols like the kinds which incited the mobs in his paintings for decades without it causing any violence; he could not have anticipated the reaction it would cause. Also, there is a big difference between an exhibition being trashed and people being killed.
Aaronthegreatest 2 months ago 4