The Renaissance Singers, Gabrieli - Magnificat octavi toni

The Renaissance Singers perform "Magnificat octavi toni" by Andrea Gabrieli (1510-1586).

Holy Rosary Church, Seattle, WA, USA
May 9, 2008

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• early
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• vocal
• choral
• andrea
• gabrieli
• choir
• magnificat
• tallis
• scholars
• renaissance
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• seattle

[AsksOneThing]

THANK YOU! I am learning the bottom part in choir 1, and this is SO helpful! The notes are so clear!

[markdavinobenza]

@AsksOneThing Nice, hope you enjoy the piece.

[markdavinobenza]

@byrdntallis Great thanks, looks like a great group, I'll search youtube for audio clips.

Ha, will do:)

[byrdntallis]

@markdavinobenza cambridge(hyphen)voices dot org dot uk. Sounds like it will be a great tour. I've not met Peter, nor Patrick. But I'd be delighted if Peter invited me to sing with the Tallis Scholars. Perhaps you could put a word in for me :) I hope it all goes well.

[markdavinobenza]

@byrdntallis Ah, very good. I'll have to look it up.

That's no problem, it is quite a long way. We are touring with Peter Phillips from the Tallis Scholars as our guest conductor and countertenor Patrick Craig, maybe you know of them?

[byrdntallis]

@markdavinobenza The main group I sing with is a 16 voice choir called Cambridge Voices. It was started 25 years ago by a choral scholar from King's College chapel choir. I'd like to come and hear you but East Coast USA is a long trip for a gig.

[markdavinobenza]

@byrdntallis Thanks. Like your name, we are in fact doing a Byrd & Tallis concert here (in Seattle) in October and taking it on tour to the East Coast, very much looking forward to it. I love the music. What groups do you sing for over there?

[byrdntallis]

@markdavinobenza You're welcome. My comment was a shortened version of what I wrote originally. All this talk of ficta and pronunciation is missing the point. The question should be is it viable - does it work? And the answer is yes. This is great stuff. I sing in Cambridge UK and we don't get hung up on such things. If we want to re-interpret, we do! We just make music. It's amazing how many choirs follow all the rules and sound terribly dull. You don't. Well done.

[markdavinobenza]

@byrdntallis Thanks so much!

[byrdntallis]

A good and perfectly viable performance.

[markdavinobenza]

Thanks!

[stevenjackson1958]

Beautifully sung.

[callimacos]

@LocusIoannis I've to ask you sorry then,but I still think that for catholic rapresentations in music(expecially for italian coposers) ther is just one filological good pronounciacion :)

[LocusIoannis]

@callimacos I don't think you understood what I was saying. I was saying your example of the Germans' pronunciation of "Virgine" is a bad one because these German ensembles you're saying are pronouncing it wrong are actually pronouncing it correctly in the pronunciation system they're using. I'm quite familiar with Latin pronunciation systems. I'm actually just beginning a project that will eventually become a comprehensive guide to the major Latin pronunciation systems for singers.

[callimacos]

@LocusIoannis

ther's just one way to pronounciate it correctely,it's the ecclesiatic latin and it has specifical rules

[LocusIoannis]

@markdavinobenza How do you explain the treatises from well before the Common Practice era that specifically outline the rules for ficta then? It does not imply harmony, but rather relationships between the fifths. To your ear that is familiar with functional harmony it might, you're attributing the effect to ficta rather than the later music. Besides, the Common Practice had to come from somewhere. They didn't just wake up and say, "alright, let's start throwing sharps in random places!"

[LocusIoannis]

@callimacos You do realize the Germans have an entirely different pronunciation system for Latin, right?

[markdavinobenza]

Ah. I was thinking you were making an intonational comment.

The edition I was working with did not have that raised 7th ficta business. I generally avoid ficta, as it tends to imply harmonic function that certainly didn't come into music till the common practice era.

[PerotinusMagister]

At a lot of the perfect cadences, you sing a flattened leading note, where the rules of ficta demand sharps...mea DOMINUM, slautari MEO, ecce ENIM, omnes GENERATIONES, implevit BONIS, semini ejus in SAECULA, patri et FILIO, spiritui SANCTO, AMEN?

[markdavinobenza]

Flat leading notes? In relationship to what?

[PerotinusMagister]

Wonderful - out of itnerest, why the decision to sing flat leading notes?

[callimacos]

Very touching interpretation......

but I've to say something,the T's and R's proununciation is not exactly correct,but happens very often in england and USA

just like the G in the german ensambles like in the word ''virgine'' 4 example....work on it ^^

[markdavinobenza]

We are called the Renaissance Singers. Thank you for listening.

[markdavinobenza]

We will! Thank you for listening. We'll have more up soon so I hope you come back:)!!

[geechui]

congratulations, renaissance singers! great balance, clarity, and excellent pitch. pls consider doing palestrina's gloria from missa papae marcelli or sicut cervus. i'm sure you'd produce a fantastic interpretation.