Does the atmosphere spin with the earth ?

What does the evidence show ?

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[fernieboy100]

When you spin a basketball on your finger does the air in the room spin with it ? Yes or no answer will suffice - not but but but ......

[Anonamouse7]

It's friction basically. You seem under the impression that there is no friction between the surface and the atmosphere. This is incorrect.

[fernieboy100]

@Anonamouse7 Friction ? you said the atmosphere was spinning with the earth did you not ? so either it is or it isn't - I already know it isn't that's why I get a kick out of you guys who say one thing then change your tune when confronted with clearly seen facts that anyone can see, even those without a college degree can see it plain as day.At first its oh your so dumb the atmosphere spins with earth then 2 minutes later when asked about cloud movement the story totally changes !!!! hilarious

[ar2de2em2]

@Anonamouse7 "It's friction basically"

Strictly speaking you mean drag (because you are talking about a gas). And I am not just being pedantic. There is an important difference. Drag increases significantly with velocity. Having said that the Earth's atmosphere (gas) does not rotate because it is being dragged along by the crust. It rotates because, like the crust (solid) and the inner core (liquid), it has angular momentum. Gas bodies rotate without any drag from solid surfaces do they not?

[fernieboy100]

@ar2de2em2 I have now heard 2 theories - one person said that as the earth was spinning the gases that formed the atmosphere were slowly let out of the earths crust and they have been moving with the earth ever since - and now others say the earth was spinning and this spinning caused all the gases in the atmosphere to spin at the same speed as the earth is spinning - to me both of those sound very unlikely - they cannot be demonstrated at all and then the excuse is because space is a vaccum

[fernieboy100]

this is the thing with false science it is like a riddle that can't be solved - you see since we don't have a vaccum effect down here on earth- It's just a way to get out of demonstrating it or proving it. Like evolution it happened millions of years ago and also it happens sooo slowly that we can't see it - there is always a riddle like this at the end of all false science. 

[ar2de2em2]

@fernieboy100 "When you spin a basketball on your finger does the air in the room spin with it ? Yes or no answer will suffice - not but but but ......"

NO

[Anonamouse7]

@fernieboy100 Why have you not allowed my previous reply through?

[Anonamouse7]

@fernieboy100 ... Compared to the atmosphere clouds are very small.

[Anonamouse7]

@fernieboy100 Yes, friction. The atmosphere is spinning with the Earth because of friction between the ground and itself.

As for weather patterns, can I give an analogy? You are on a train that's travelling at a constant velocity along a perfect track (i.e. no x,y or z acceleration). When you are in the train you can move in all directions with ease, but you do not effect the course of the train, nor does the train limit your movement. It's a similar situation with the atmosphere...

[zcguitar1]

@fernieboy100 5:50 The earths surface wont be seen moving because the camera is fix onto the Earth. Its like if i put a dot on your forearm with a sharpy, that your arm doesnt move cause the dot hasnt moved from the original spot on your arm. The reason the stars and clouds are moving in different directions is that while the earth is spinning its also orbiting around the sun.Thus the stars movement wouldnt follow that of earths rotation. As for the atmosphere & the earths rotation, i dont know