Beach Boys-Never Learn Not To Love

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[qasl1234]

This song has an interesting history.

[johnrunion]

dennis once said charlie didn't want credit...he/manson wanted cash and that charlie had stolen enough cash from him over the years.

[peterp21]

I also get a kick that the song-by-song liner notes to the 20/20 album reissue sort of just quickly gloss over this song, mentioning Dennis sings it and that it had some orchestration on it. They forget to mention that big elephant sitting in the corner.

[peterp21]

I always got a kick out of the story of total alpha male Dennis Wilson beating the everloving shit out of Charlie right in front of the Family after Charlie decided to talk shit and make a veiled threat at Dennis's family. Apparently he pounced Charlie once the threat was made and beat him to a pulp until Chuck crawled away into a corner.

[rtisi]

If you get the chance, check out the documentary "The Six Degrees of Helter Skelter". They talk about this situation.

[surfingthechaos]

@idiedidied Why thank you.

[idiedidied]

@surfingthechaos Way to completely miss the point.

[idiedidied]

@johnrunion That's just...blatantly untrue. 

[Jormunbong]

I rather like the original version. Mr Manson's "Cease to Exist" is more impresive, more mystical. The Beach Boy version is just another pop song. They've candy up Charlie's amazing music to sell it to all the kids in America.

[cuntrytrash]

@spacepatrolman No, CLEM GROGAN AND PAUL WATKINS crashed his Ferrari. Even Paul Watkins said that was true. Grogan even said that he crashed it. It slid off the road and down an embankment, not a wall. It was not totaled, but Clem and Paul hitched back to Dennis' house and got Manson. When they went back the car was gone- stolen. Funny that Paul also said Dennis Wilson disassociated himself with his belongings (which was typical for hippie types in those days) and did not want his possessions.

[cuntrytrash]

@johnrunion Gregg Jakobson said that Manson did want credit, he also wanted money. He said he can have the song as long as it was arranged the same way as he arranged it. However, he wanted money for it as well as royalties. It was pretty weak how Dennis recorded the song and claimed to be the writer thinking he would never be found out. of course when confronted he said that Manson owed him. Okay, that explains why he did not pay Manson royalties. So, why did he plagiarize it?

[hididdlyho82]

@MrJerryw08 Its a bit different from the Manson version!