Carney Care.. health care at gun point

Chris Carney tries to come across as just one of the guys, but in reality he is a thug .. Just one of many thugs under the liar Obama. Obama got elected by saying he was against mandatory health insurance and now he wants to fine you and jail you if you don't go along with his lie. No one is talking about mandatory health insurance. NO they are all talking about the public option. Which means that if the bill passes everyone will have to buy insurance from the fat cats. people with existing policies will mostly be obsolete! Vote Carney and Sen. Casey Out

Health care expert Betsy McCaughey has read the nearly 2000 page House version of the health care bill and found some of the details you need to know.



the Congressional Budget Office estimated what the plans will likely cost. An individual earning $44,000 before taxes who purchases his own insurance will have to pay a $5,300 premium and an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket expenses, for a total of $7,300 a year, which is 17% of his pre-tax income

after the bill becomes law, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will decide what a qualified plan covers and how much youll be legally required to pay for it. Thats like a banker telling you to sign the loan agreement now, then filling in the interest rate and repayment terms 18 months later

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The health care reform battle continues
November 30th, 2009
We are thankful for each member who responded to recent emails, letters, and phone calls by praying and contacting your elected representatives. We are very encouraged and believe God is blessing these efforts to make an impact on the health care debate. We need to persevere, remembering that, The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

We continue to pray that the Body of Christ will be awakened to the dangers that are looming and will seek out the truth that is being ignored in much of the information the public is receiving.

A few Samaritan members have called our office, asking if the passage of HR 3962 in the U.S. House of Representatives means we will no longer be sharing needs. The short answer is Keep sending to the needs assigned to you! There are a variety of health care scenarios that could play out in the coming months and years, and we are going to need to be both vigilant and patient.

The health care reform process is far from over. There are still many ways for God to intervene. We need to continue depending on Him and taking action where we can. Please continue to pray that God would stop the legislation in its current form. Please also continue to contact your representatives, especially your U.S. Senators, to express your concerns.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has presented a bill in the U.S. Senate that combines elements of the bills from the Senate Finance Committee and the HELP Committee. The widely reported vote of the Senate on November 20th was merely a procedural step that allowed the Senate to begin consideration of the health reform bill when the Senate reconvenes after its Thanksgiving break.

There is some good news in that there is language giving individual members of health care sharing ministries an exemption from the requirement to have health insurance. However, this protection did not include businesses and ministries of 50 employees or more (such as Samaritan Ministries) who use a health care sharing ministry for the health care needs of their employees. There is also a provision that would seem to promote abortion.

A majority of the senators voting would have to approve any amendments. Then 60 senators would have to agree to allow it to come to a final vote.

If the Senate passes a bill, it would go to a conference committee, where members of the House of Representatives and the Senate would put together a bill that would combine it with the bill the House has already passed. The bill from the conference committee would then have to be approved by both houses.

As you can see, there will be many opportunities for various provisions to be added or taken out. Many things will not be certain until the very end. It will be important for us to be praying and contacting our elected officials at every point along the way. We will need to be prepared to act quickly, and at the same time be prepared for a very long, drawn-out process.

In the bills proposed thus far, individuals will not be required to have health insurance until 2013. Until then, there will still be time to make additional appeals, while continuing to bear one anothers burdens with prayers, encouragement, and gifts.

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[SuperCharlieTuna]

Chris Carney is Nancy Pelosi's lap dog and he has to go!!! Vote anyone EXCEPT Carney!!

[Nuclearfright]

@towandacreek If that's true than surely it's unconstitutional.

[Nuclearfright]

0 republican votes and even 34 democrat votes for no and it still passed. This is a radical bill.

[lcmorgan1221]

What this whole process has been about, is the administration's lack of understanding of the American public's wishes. Now, no matter how socialistic Obama may be, the fact remains that his power eminates from the American people. It has been obvious through the Tea Party movement and the defeats in Va. ans Mass. yet the admin. ignores them. The fact is, the Obama admin. is not concerned with constituent wishes, they are assumptive elitists that don't deserve a place in our democracy.

[towandacreek]

Beginning on page 1,000 of the measure, Section 3403 reads in part: it shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection. In other words, if Obama signs this measure into law, no future Senate or House will be able to change a single word of Section 3403, regardless whether future Americans or their representatives in Congress wish otherwise.

[bodybuilder444444]

Amen, amen, amen, amen!