GWH Unintelligent Design Part 1
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Talk about willfully blind. Your painting analogy is just as bad as the finding a watch on the beach analogy. This is an working organic engine. Engines do not of the luxury of having different viewpoints to function properly, it will either work or will not work, a crappy engine will be viewed as crap by everyone who views it due to its performance and maintenance not to mention lifespan and how often it breaks down.
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No Intelligent Design = No Intelligence was designed.
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If I was an omnipotent designer/creator, I would make the human body look much cooler.
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@timofly we are completely looking at things with our own eyes and justifying that if something we think is not good, then it's not designed. Say an artist paints a painting and thinks it's beautiful, then a passerby looks and thinks, it looks like it's splatters of mud and rain, so it's just conincidence, if it's interpreted as a painting, the passerby may say, this painting is not well created, not designed well, so it's probably not made, just came into place by chance.
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Like lets say us, pretend we're made for a purpose, say to suffer pain during reproduction. but we then decide to believe that we are just some matter, product of the universe. And decide we like reproducing but realize that reproducing hurts so much and therefore we're just some coincidental accident. not designed for any reason, that's just messed up thinking.
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I am not trying to argue anything or debate, but want some deeper thinking into what you're presenting here.
just some weird thought in my head. think of it this way. The screw driver is created for turning screws, but someone picks it up and decides that it is a hammer and then notices that it is not a good hammer, so therefore no one designed it since it doesn't work well as a hammer.
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@timofly About birth pains, God even said the woman will have birth pains because of her disobedience to God. I don't find anything wrong about birth pains. Think of the emotional bonds a mother has to her child after labor, is that not something good? If you think we are in many ways very flawed in our design, think of why after so many years, humanity continues to live, still be able to survive, shouldn't we all be dead because we are so badly made and incapable?
That verse is a simple explanation of a naturally occurring phenomenon. Childbirth is painful for humans, so they made a connection that this was a punishment. No different than the rainbow being a sign that god would never flood the earth again - people didn't understand what a rainbow was, so they came up with an explanation. We know better now, so we don't need to hold onto old beliefs that we know are untrue.
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