Walter's Story - Life Report - Episode 35 Excerpt

Walter Hoye tells the Life Report team the powerful story of what got him involved in the pro-life movement.

This is just an excerpt. Listen to the full audio of Walter's story at
http://blog.prolifepodcast.net/2008/11/17/life-report-35-special-guest--walte...

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[smartwarlord]

Job 10:18-19 clearly refutes the idea life begins at conception:

18. Now why did You take me out of the womb? Would that I had died and no eye had seen me.

19. Then I would have been as though I had not existed; would that I was brought from the womb to the grave.

[LifeReport]

@smartwarlord I'm not convinced that just because the author of Job had no understanding of early fetal development means that God means for people to believe that life begins at some other point besides conception.

When do you think biological life begins?

[smartwarlord]

@LifeReport

"the author of Job had no understanding of early fetal development" - So God does not know about fetal development? I guess you're an Atheist then. (Which is fine, but you should have said so in advance)

Biological life begins when the organism containing human genetic material no longer is dependent on another organism containing human genetic material.

So, at birth, is where life begins.

Religiously however, I believe that first breath is when a baby becomes a person.

[LifeReport]

@smartwarlord Let's pretend like I am an atheist. How did you come to the conclusion that biological life doesn't begin until the organism is no longer dependent on another organism of the same species?

[smartwarlord]

Life begins at birth, according to G-d.

Being anti-choice ("pro-life") is blasphemous.

[LifeReport]

@smartwarlord How did you come to that conclusion?

[smartwarlord]

@otaaac3

Your entire idea rests upon English. not the actual text.

It is quite clear grammatically that the "I" is retrospective.

[otaaac3]

@smartwarlord Re. Job 10: Your verses from Job don't clearly refute life beginning at conception. Job ("me" and later "I") was talking about being in the womb. He talked about dying in the womb; if he wasn't a living person, he couldn't die as "I". Further, he said, "*as though* I had not existed" metaphorically, not I did not exist concretely. (Of course, there are other Bible verses that talk about this, too.)

[warningfireexit]

People live in accordance to what they perceive as reality. God is this man's reality and this is his knowledge and understanding. When someone comes on to argue a pro choice position that becomes blasphemy. Since we are more civilized and don't run around killing witches anymore pro-lifers appeal to reasoning. But it stems from religion and often times they want to centralize their power and exercise it on the masses. So that everyone experiences their reality.

[MrAbolitionist]

Walter Hoye is a true warrior for our cause. I've seen some of his videos. He is calm voice, who uses gentleness to draw people away from abortion and closer to God.