Debate Evolution Intelligent Design 4of8

An evolution debate tag team on the teaching of intelligent design creationism in science classrooms. This debate predates the Kitzmiller trial and pits some of the participants. Defending the scientific position was Michael Ruse, Eugenie Scott, Kenneth Miller and Barry Lynne. Defending the intelligent design creationist position was David Berlinski, Michael Behe, Phillip johnson and William Buckley. http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EE00366221C6663E

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Education

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• evolution
• intelligent
• design
• creationism
• debate
• behe
• kenneth
• miller
• berlinski
• eugenie
• scott

[RedDevilFFM]

maybe I am wrong, but I think Berlinsky is a little bit retarded ^^

[spikesmth]

I'm so sick of the lack of transitional forms argument! THERE ARE MANY MANY MANY transitional forms. You don't need to complete a whole jigsaw puzzle before you can make out what the picture is!

[dsaxton1]

@RedDevilFFM He's actually really smart, but for some reason he likes to act retarded.

[spikesmth]

@parraphrase There are so many, I'll just stick to the subset of Ungulates we call "Horses." Mesohippus, Hipparion, Pliohippus, and Equus. Normal functioning humans would have Googled it for themselves, but I wouldn't expect a creationist to show such initiative to learn something on their own. The experts agree, but the fossils are easily viewable by anyone who cares to look it up. Would you think pygmy horses are unrelated to regular horses? That they just popped up from nowhere?

[parraphrase]

@TheRedneckAtheist Hey Red Atheist. Hilarious! Although I don't agree that his arguments are laughable I'm laughing at beheheheheheh because of you. You're a trip.

[parraphrase]

@spikesmth Hey Spike Dog. I mean that in love.

Could you name one Ungulate, Therapsid, Theropod, Whale intermediate fossil? Not trying to be rude in any way but wouldn't your statement "THERE ARE MANY MANY MANY transitional forms" be better stated "the experts I agree with say there are MANY MANY MANY transitional forms" since you defer to them?

[spikesmth]

@parraphrase I'm sure if you really cared to know, you would have Googled it, but w/e. Hominids, Ungulates, Therapsids, Theropods, Whales, and many more all have numerous intermediates in their fossil trees. In my opinion yes, it's as close to proof as you could possibly get (along with observed speciation and DNA). But my opinion is irrelevant, my field is Economics, I just enjoy learning about science. Generally I'll defer to the experts.

[parraphrase]

@spikesmth

Hey dude. Just wondering what transitional fossils have been found? Also.. in your opinion are transitional fossils proof of biological evolution?

[parraphrase]

Were Berlinski's questions answered?

[urantivirus]

@periechontology You're incredibly ignorant if you think that and ignorance isn't an excuse to reject the theory of evolution. Maybe you should actually look at the evidence for the thoery of evolution instead of just claiming there is none, like a complete idiot. The greatest bit of evidence for evolution is in genetics, not the fossil record. Some other great evidence is actually witnessing speciation.

Also *descent*, unless you're trying to say similarity equals suitable. lol

[periechontology]

@urantivirus

It is the only evidence. The rest of it is based upon the tautology that similarity equals decent because similarity equals decent.